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Author Topic: 2001: A Space Odyssey (Presented in 70MM) Jonathan Goeldner Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1360 From: Washington, District of Columbia Registered: Jun 2008 posted 02-13-2011 10:05 AM                     according to Seattle's Cinerama's facebook page, both 'Close Encounters' AND '2001' used/projected the bluray of both films onto the big screen.  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 02-15-2011 07:44 AM                        Now THERE's something I'd fly right out to Seattle to see.  |  IP: Logged Paul Mayer Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under! Posts: 3836 From: Albuquerque, NM Registered: Feb 2000 posted 02-15-2011 07:49 PM                        Having both seen and run it in 70mm on a big curved screen, 2001 remains a movie-going experience I won't soon forget. The Blu-ray looks great on the 34" LCD in the living room - but I don't think I'd want to see even the best BD blown up on a Cinerama-sized screen. I'll join Frank in a shared reaction:  |  IP: Logged Brian D. Whitish Expert Film Handler Posts: 103 From: Seattle, WA, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 02-17-2011 04:18 AM                     I went and saw it. It was soft but surprisingly good for a 70 foot screen. Ive seen it in 70mm 15 times and no it wasnt close. But then again, what is?  |  IP: Logged Ben Wales Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 602 From: Southampton. England Registered: Jul 99 posted 02-17-2011 03:40 PM                     quote: Jonathan Goeldner according to Seattle's Cinerama's facebook page, both 'Close Encounters' AND '2001' used/projected the bluray of both films onto the big screen. So this is the Future "Digital Cinema Experience" DVD at 1080P on a Big Screen. Look's that I will stay at home and watch some of the "Real" 70mm stuff, so if they would like to forward their Reduntant 70mm prints to me.........  |  IP: Logged John Wilson Film God Posts: 5438 From: Sydney, Australia. Registered: Dec 1999 posted 02-18-2011 05:54 PM                     Not meaning to nit-pick, but it wasn't DVD, it was BluRay. There's a pretty big difference.  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 02-18-2011 06:04 PM                        Yah, and there is a GARGANTUMUNGOUS difference between BluRay and 70mm.  |  IP: Logged John Wilson Film God Posts: 5438 From: Sydney, Australia. Registered: Dec 1999 posted 02-18-2011 06:08 PM                     True also...but not in all cases. I fully expect the BluRay of 'Pink Floyd: The Wall' to beat the pants off the shitty 70mm blow-ups they made of that title. It wouldn't take much.  |  IP: Logged Victor Liorentas Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 800 From: london ontario canada Registered: May 2009 posted 02-18-2011 06:46 PM                     Did the 70mm blow ups of The Wall look bad for a blow up? How about the sound? I only ever saw 35mm mag and optical stereo but it looked and sounded great!  |  IP: Logged Ben Wales Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 602 From: Southampton. England Registered: Jul 99 posted 02-19-2011 04:06 AM                     quote: John Wilson I fully expect the BluRay of 'Pink Floyd: The Wall' to beat the pants off the shitty 70mm blow-ups they made of that title. May be on a smaller screen, but certainly not on the title subject on this Tread that had been filmed on 65mm and projected on a 70ft screen!. And also since when the BluRay DVD is considered as a Video Format for Commercial Cinemas?, it is a Consumer Product and is fine for HD Screenings for Film Festivals etc where no option of 35mm prnts or 2K versions.  |  IP: Logged Jonathan Goeldner Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1360 From: Washington, District of Columbia Registered: Jun 2008 posted 02-19-2011 10:50 PM                     yet WHEN are studios going to port their restorations and release them in 2K or 4K harddrive form?? It seems maybe a tad premature at the moment but, with both 4K LCoS and 4K DLP, wouldn't theatres that actually make the change over to digital projection want to be able to actually get older films not in print form but 'digitally' - I wish Warners had released the 4K restoration of 'North By Northwest' to select theatres nation wide instead of just the industry one-off showing. Seattle's Cinerama also had shown 2K DCP screenings of 'The African Queen' and 'Breakfast at Tiffany's' - I've not seen the former on blu, but the Hidef transfer I saw of Tiffany's (on HDNet Movies) was really remarkable. as for 'Pink Floyd The Wall' on HDNet Movies, the print had alot of imperfections, if and when the movie gets released on bluray, I'd assume and hope these are optically cleaned up/removed.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 02-20-2011 09:41 AM                     More and more titles are getting the DCP treatment from the "Catalog" titles. However, the business of keeping something available in DCP form is not as easy or as cheap as one would think. Believe it or not...it is easier to keep a title in film form for long term preservation and merely print that to a print or digital when it is needed. Of course, I would perfer if they just keep a few prints in circulation for those theatres that cater to the classics. They all have film projectors and many are installing/have changeover systems to be able to run said movies. 2001 is not going to be adequately represented by even 4K digital, for what its worth. -Steve  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 02-20-2011 03:09 PM                     For rep titles that don't have very many plays each year, once a DCP has been created, there really isn't any reason why 2-3 hard drives that were shipped out to playdates can not be kept "on the shelf". In the space it takes to store 1 35mm print, 3 DCPs could be stored ready-to-ship. For something like Rocky Horror, additional drives could be produced around October if it was deemed not worth storing them throughout the rest of the year. Of course this is a bad example because most theaters running RHPS wouldn't have digital anyway. Sure over time the hard drives will get beaten around enough so they won't spin up and function, but then again the 35mm print typically suffers from additional wear with most bookings.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 02-20-2011 03:16 PM                     I would say titles like Its a Wonderful Life would fit Brads model better. First off...you know there are going to be requests EACH year so the need to have any great effort for keeping the DCP version usable isn't needed and when Christmas rolls around...make the dupes on DCP for those theatres that want it...then repurpose those drives once the Holidays are over and then repeat next year. However, there are some titles that do not get such a cyclical demand. While film prints can and do get beat up, they can be stored pretty cheaply and for a long time and the prints themselves have a useful life of many playdates. -Steve  |  IP: Logged Jonathan Goeldner Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1360 From: Washington, District of Columbia Registered: Jun 2008 posted 02-22-2011 10:58 AM                     the reason I ask, is that with the Uptown theatre here in DC shifting over to a DLP unit and getting rid of it's 35/70mm projector - they are essentially stuck with what's only available in harddrive form, not that they show anything that's not new, but still - I get the sense they shot themselves in the foot (but hey it's AMC what do they care?).  |  IP: Logged

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