Film-Tech Cinema Systems
Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE


  
my profile | my password | search | faq & rules | forum home
  next oldest topic   next newest topic
» Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE   » Operations   » Ground Level   » What would you ban in your movie theatre? (Page 2)

 
This topic comprises 5 pages: 1  2  3  4  5 
 
Author Topic: What would you ban in your movie theatre?
Ken Lackner
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1907
From: Atlanta, GA, USA
Registered: Sep 2001


 - posted 11-07-2001 12:30 PM      Profile for Ken Lackner   Email Ken Lackner   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Regal has posted signs in all of it's theatres to the effect of no bags, backpacks, etc.... allowed in the facility. (As a result of 9/11). Our GM told us that even if a person has a concealed weapons permit, they are not to bring the gun into our building.

 |  IP: Logged

Brad Miller
Administrator

Posts: 17775
From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99


 - posted 11-07-2001 01:08 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
No doubt more overparanoid hysteria from the Sept 11 incident. I wish people would wake up and realize that the terrorists are not going to target a movie theater! That isn't a big enough target.

 |  IP: Logged

Jim Ziegler
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 753
From: West Hollywood, CA
Registered: Jul 99


 - posted 11-07-2001 03:57 PM      Profile for Jim Ziegler   Email Jim Ziegler   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Brad,

Terrorists blow up pizza restaurants in Israel... Theatres, malls, schools, or anywhere else there is a large group of people, are justified in taking additional precautions... Preventing a terrorist attack is like preventing crime, you dont have to make your building impossible to hit, all you have to do it make it harder to hit than the one down the street.

 |  IP: Logged

Brad Miller
Administrator

Posts: 17775
From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99


 - posted 11-07-2001 04:21 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Whatever you say Jim. I just don't see Bin Laden targeting your Cinemark complex. Small terrorist groups perhaps, but they've got to have a reason for bombing your theater in the first place, and really, just how often does this actually happen here in the states? (Perhaps you kicked the leader out of the complex for some bogus reason and he's now got a score to settle with you.)

Since you didn't take the hint earlier, please fill out your profile before you continue posting. Terrorists will not come and attack you solely on knowing what city and state you live in. You don't have to send in a picture (although most people I talk to take the guys here with pictures more seriously) or tell us specifically which theater you work at, but there is no specific personal information in the city and state you live in. We are not in Isreal. It's ok.


 |  IP: Logged

Michael Barry
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 584
From: Sydney, NSW, Australia
Registered: Nov 1999


 - posted 11-07-2001 08:12 PM      Profile for Michael Barry   Email Michael Barry   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
What would I ban? Inferior projectors, lenses, turrets, speakers, amplifiers, etc...pretty much anything, in fact, that achieves results that are less than stellar. That kind of equipment does not belong in a professional movie theatre.


 |  IP: Logged

Frank Rapisardi
Film Handler

Posts: 96
From: Methuen, MA, USA
Registered: Apr 2000


 - posted 11-08-2001 07:41 AM      Profile for Frank Rapisardi   Email Frank Rapisardi   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
If we didn't need there money'I ban teens. They can often be a pain.

------------------

 |  IP: Logged

Gerard S. Cohen
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 975
From: Forest Hills, NY, USA
Registered: Sep 2001


 - posted 11-11-2001 08:30 PM      Profile for Gerard S. Cohen   Email Gerard S. Cohen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Regarding handguns, in a multiplex on Sunrise Highway, Nassau County, Long Island, a gunfight broke out between gangs attending a violent
exploitation movie. The film continued with the auditorium dark and
five people were shot, while patrons panicked and ran screaming for the exits.
When theatres abandoned the "one projectionist for every screen" policy,they put the public safety at risk. Some don't even keep an usher in every auditorium despite chain requirements, and fail to
run emergency or civil disorder drills that may be required of managers and staff.


 |  IP: Logged

John Walsh
Film God

Posts: 2490
From: Connecticut, USA, Earth, Milky Way
Registered: Oct 1999


 - posted 11-11-2001 08:51 PM      Profile for John Walsh   Email John Walsh   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Personally, I don't think you need a operator for every screen, but I do feel there should be one real projectionist in every theater at all times. If it's a big place, hire a kid who helps the main operator.

If I were rich, I would ban food. It's always a mess. However, I know I'd have to be rich, because usually the film alone doesn't pay for any kind of profit.

 |  IP: Logged

Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

Posts: 12814
From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999


 - posted 11-11-2001 09:20 PM      Profile for Steve Guttag   Email Steve Guttag   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Oh this is an easy one...

Ban typical Business Management graduates...they have proven that they just don't get to concept that a "show" is a valuable resourse that doesn't translate well to spread sheets so can't be quantified...

What typical Business Management graduates have proven is that they can drive cinemas (and other entertainment based businesses) to bankruptcy in mass.

Steve

PS...I will go on record that I disagree with JW's statement on operators...one per screen is ideal but they have to be the real kind that think they are actually being paid to work. This industry's most profitable years were with one operator per screen (or more actually).

------------------
"Old projectionists never die, they just changeover!"


 |  IP: Logged

Ken Lackner
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1907
From: Atlanta, GA, USA
Registered: Sep 2001


 - posted 11-12-2001 12:13 AM      Profile for Ken Lackner   Email Ken Lackner   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
One operator per screen is definitely ridiculous if you have automation and platters. What's the point? And how in the world did doing away with one operator per screen put the public's saftey at risk????? An usher per auditorium I can understand. What what do operators have to do with public saftey?

As far as one usher per auditorium, I don't think it's absolutely necessary, but I guess it would be a good idea.

 |  IP: Logged

Brad Miller
Administrator

Posts: 17775
From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99


 - posted 11-12-2001 12:24 AM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
I don't see the need for one operator per screen either. With today's automation (platters or automated changeovers), that payroll would be much better spent on having an usher sit in each auditorium, memorizing the film. Of course we all know that will never happen.

Gerard, the secret to preventing those gunfights between gangs is for Hollywood to stop making those crappy "violent exploitation movies" that do nothing than to get the audience all fired up.

Steve, do you honestly believe that this industry had more profitable years solely because there was one projectionist working each screen? Have you forgotten about videotapes, satellite, DVDs and the basic fact that Hollywood can't seem to make a decent movie lately? Quantity of projectionists in relation to profits on a movie is absurd. One GOOD operator can run an automated multiplex by himself just fine without sacrificing presentation standards. Having two operators is extra icing.


 |  IP: Logged

Jim Ziegler
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 753
From: West Hollywood, CA
Registered: Jul 99


 - posted 11-12-2001 03:19 AM      Profile for Jim Ziegler   Email Jim Ziegler   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Brad,

You seem to think I am paranoid about a terrorist attack at my theatre.. You know what, you are partly right.. Do you know why I am concerned? Quite simply because it has already happended at my theatre, in August of 1999.

Terrorists, whether they are targeting a crowded pizza restaurant in Israel, or the London subways, pick a target for, typically, one of three (or sometimes a combination of the three) reasons: symbolic impact, disruptive capablility and potential body count. The WTC achieved all three.

Why hit a theatre? Simple. There is a large quantity of people, in a single room, and a successful attack would scare the American people away from social gatherings. Don't believe me? Compare how many people are flying now compared to before 9/11.

Now, can you totally prevent an attack? No. Something as small as a fragmentation grenade can kill dozens of people. However, the inablility to obtain 100% protection does not, in any way, excuse ignoring the problem. Had there been more dedication to airport security, perhaps the attack on 9/11 would have been prevented.

On a personal note, my removing my location has nothing to do with a fear that Osama will come after me.. My reasons for removing it were personal, and, frankly, I have to wonder why you care so much.. But since you do, I put it back. I would hate for you to loose sleep.

 |  IP: Logged

Chad Souder
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 962
From: Waterloo, IA, USA
Registered: Feb 2000


 - posted 11-12-2001 05:10 PM      Profile for Chad Souder   Email Chad Souder   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I've always believed the public bears the responsibility of maintaining their own safety, rather than counting on someone else always. Like an usher or operator per screen is going to stop a fight, much less a gang shoot-out. Seriously. You could have ten ushers per auditorium and it wouldn't matter in that situation. This is where allowing people with a CCW permit to carry without getting pestered by some high-and-mighty, "I'm gonna protect the world from evil by ordering this law-abiding citizen off my premises", manager or whatever. Believe me, if I'm in a theatre somewhere, and someone threatens my safety, I'm not going to sit there and leave it up to an usher. Police are a differnt matter of course, but they usually respond after the worst is over anyway.

In reference to 9/11, it appears the only reason a 4th target wasn't hit was because a few members of the public decided to count on themselves. As it has to happen sometimes, public safety was defended by the public.

------------------
"Asleep at the switch? I wasn't asleep, I was drunk!" - Homer Simpson

 |  IP: Logged

Charles Everett
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1470
From: New Jersey
Registered: May 2001


 - posted 11-12-2001 05:44 PM      Profile for Charles Everett   Email Charles Everett   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Gerard, Brad: That "violent exploitation movie" was The Godfather Part III.

 |  IP: Logged

Gerard S. Cohen
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 975
From: Forest Hills, NY, USA
Registered: Sep 2001


 - posted 11-12-2001 07:48 PM      Profile for Gerard S. Cohen   Email Gerard S. Cohen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
When I took the performance part of the New York City licensing examination for Theatre Projectionist, I was quizzed on booth and audience safety in the event on fire or civil disorder.

The history of projectionists began with itinerant showmen followed
by "the Professor" with his magic lantern or stereopticon, then motion
picture projector. But always the patrons had the secure, comforting
feeling that someone of intelligence and authority was in charge.
This responsibility was recognized by civil legislatures; hence
the questions on the NYC exam.

I think it is unconscionable to profit by the congregation of large numbers of the public and then to deny responsibility for their
safety. The projectionist controls the lights and sound, and can
raise the auditorium lights and stop the show to permit the safe
evacuation of the house in case of fire, riot or other disaster.
Then the manager and his staff can use microphone, bullhorn or his voice,together with his ushers, to calm the patrons and lead them to safety.

I have had the experience of informing the manager and, in his temporary absence, the police and fire department of emergencies,
stopping the show and raising the lights to permit EMS workers to administer medical aid and to carry out heart-attack victims; I
also reported a man with a hunting knife threatening theatre doormen
and ushers, and one time two thieves.

Yes, Brad, I agree the nature of some films can attract gangs and
violent behavior. But the deployment of the theatre staff-- projectionist, manager, doormen, cashiers, ushers (and lets bring
back the Saturday morning "Matrons")--working as a team, with
practiced plans of coordinated response in case of emergencies,
can return to our theatres the moral responsibility we have to
the public who make our jobs and salaries possible.

 |  IP: Logged



All times are Central (GMT -6:00)
This topic comprises 5 pages: 1  2  3  4  5 
 
   Close Topic    Move Topic    Delete Topic    next oldest topic   next newest topic
 - Printer-friendly view of this topic
Hop To:



Powered by Infopop Corporation
UBB.classicTM 6.3.1.2

The Film-Tech Forums are designed for various members related to the cinema industry to express their opinions, viewpoints and testimonials on various products, services and events based upon speculation, personal knowledge and factual information through use, therefore all views represented here allow no liability upon the publishers of this web site and the owners of said views assume no liability for any ill will resulting from these postings. The posts made here are for educational as well as entertainment purposes and as such anyone viewing this portion of the website must accept these views as statements of the author of that opinion and agrees to release the authors from any and all liability.

© 1999-2020 Film-Tech Cinema Systems, LLC. All rights reserved.