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Topic: What would you ban in your movie theatre?
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Jack Ondracek
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From: Port Orchard, WA, USA
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 01-22-2003 04:50 PM
quote: ..from Brad: ...what are Washington's laws regarding proper signage for entry into a private business that does not have the correct signs posted?...
Having had occasion to request assistance in removing the periodic miscreant from my drive-in, this is a subject I looked into in our area.
As far as the law is concerned, an owner, manager or lessee has godlike authority over who gains (or loses) access to his property... pretty much the same as a private homeowner.
A law enforcement officer is not (as far as I've experienced) authorized to act as a mediator in cases like these. If the proprietor wants someone out... and that someone doesn't want to leave or you're concerned about enraging him... the cop's job is to remove that person one way or another, and that's it. You don't have to give out a refund, or offer a reason if you don't want to. As far as the law is concerned, the place to debate such issues is small claims court, not the lobby of your business.
So... as it applies to handguns and cwp's, that would ultimately fall within the purview of the proprietor.
Personally, I would never put up a sign. In my mind, that would only alert customers of my real (or perceived) jitters about people bringing in such items. I wouldn't want that to be a concern that occupied their thoughts about my place while they were in there. If I NEEDED the sign, chances are I already had problems of other kinds.
As Paul touched on, people that have gone to the effort to get cwp's are generally pretty focused on taking care of the responsibility and not drawing attention to themselves. Were I to become aware of someone in my building having a weapon, I'd probably try to keep an open mind, considering who I was dealing with, etc... but then, my attitude is probably affected somewhat by the facts that I've never had to deal with it, nor have I personally ever had a handgun.
As for putting up a sign & expecting a chain manager to deal with the results?... nope. It wouldn't be long before some manager with a short fuse would get himself (or someone else) shot & the fallout from that would take years to work through the system.
My vote would be (generally) for a policy of managerial watchfulness, with a call to the gendarmes, should something go "over the line" of local tolerability.
Not to minimize concern over guns, but as for signs, this leads me to an idea. Maybe someone might start a thread where we can all list the "rules" we'd put on a sign, were we so inclined.
I suspect that while amusing here, the sign would be larger than the entrance door to most theatres, would not lend toward a positive "first impression" of the business and would only lead people to find (and complain about being caught engaged in) activities that weren't specifically listed "on the sign". How many of you have had people use that excuse on you when dealing with their unwanted activities?
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Jack Ondracek
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Posts: 2348
From: Port Orchard, WA, USA
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 01-25-2003 03:17 PM
quote: ...from Mike Olpin: Let's ban all anoying middle schoolers.
Today I saw Darkness Falls, and was dissrupted frequenly by a group of 10 -15 middle schoolers who screemed...
We deal with this problem by requiring that all children under our threshold age (12/13) be accompanied by an "adult" (used loosely, because age 13 buys an adult ticket). We require the adult to accompany the kids in the auditorium, and make that person responsible for their behavior. If we have trouble of any sort, we'll generally look up the adult. We've kicked out relatively large groups in the past (without refund) for the kind of behaviour you mention, and it doesn't hurt your business at all. Rather, the kids either get the hint or go elsewhere, and the people who DO behave tend to have a higher regard for your operation because they see that you do care enough to keep control over the crowd.
Oh... you don't want to drape your feet over our seats, but there's a long story there, too!
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