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Mike Spaeth
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 - posted 05-08-2002 01:31 PM      Profile for Mike Spaeth   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Spaeth   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I sell em to ZERO. This is easily accomplished with a good seater, and good box office workers. There are actually two different methods which I have used. For the shows that sell out after seating is already started, I simply keep the box office worker informed via radio on the seating situation. I start working the auditorium when there are 25% of the seats remaining (125 in a 500-seater ... 60 in a 240, etc.) This gives me plenty of time to look around and get a "feel" for the seating situation. That way, if a customer wishes to purchase a ticket, they are informed before buying the ticket that they will be sitting up front, the group will have to split up, etc. Knowing this before they go in, they usually don't mind doing what is necessary. The second method I have only used on "The Grinch." We were sold out for our 230, 500, 730, and 1000 shows by 1230pm. It was in a 256-seat auditorium (my largest), so I sold 256 tickets for each show. By the time the 1200 let out at around 145, I had 250 people in line for the 230. 15 minutes for cleaning, so seating started around 200. I had an assistant controlling the crowd at the podium, letting about 30 people by at a time. Then, I had an assistant controlling the flow at the entry door. They would ask "How many?", and radio the number to me. I would ask how far back they would like to sit, and put them where it made the most sense for the size of the group. I had 4 seats on the left aisle, 9 in the middle, 6 on the right. In controlling this, I eliminated the problem of single seats being left open. 30 minutes was plenty of time to pack the auditorium. My pet peeve is the college-age guys that won't sit next to each other, for fear of others thinking they're gay or whatever. I just tell em that if they won't move together, I'll plop down a complete stranger in between each and every one of them ... that usually alleviates the problem.


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Jason Black
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 - posted 05-09-2002 10:43 PM      Profile for Jason Black   Author's Homepage   Email Jason Black   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Mike,
If I might ask, what size theatre are you at?

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Jan Hackett
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I have always sold to zero........ Takes a lot of huzzle and a few late starts but nothing like a "sro" house. BTW i found people hate assigned seating for a movie..........What gives...? They would rather scoot over a seat to accomodate a late comer than get stuck with a seat #.............. your thoughts?

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Dustin Mitchell
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I'm sure everyone here would love to sell to zero. But usually given staffing constraints that is not an option. I know it was just one example, and given the kind of business the Grinch was doing you must have been super staffed Mike, but I can't imagine anytime when my theatre would have enough staff to have three managers doing nothing but seat one auditorium.

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Mike Spaeth
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Jason - "The Grinch" scenario was at an 8-screen. Now I'm at a 10. I used to be the Usher manager at a 14, where I also sold to zero.

Dustin - Not necessarily super-staffed. Remember, this seating scenario only happened every 2.5 hours and lasted for about 20 minutes before we had everyone in a seat. Then, we all jumped behind concession and helped out. Keep in mind that all the shows for "The Grinch" were sold out for the day ... so we only needed one box cashier ... and could put the other one that was scheduled wherever necessary to help out.

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Dustin Mitchell
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Oh I see, you had ONE screen that was selling out. That makes sense then.

Of course, next week we have 3 prints of Spiderman and 4 prints of Star Wars....*screams*

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Mike Spaeth
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 - posted 05-11-2002 03:35 PM      Profile for Mike Spaeth   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Spaeth   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yeah - when you have an 8-screen in a shared product situation (w/ 8 other screens) ... the bookings end up being feast-or-famine. The Grinch was right in the middle of one of my feasts ... no room for multiple prints of anything (except 102 Dalmations ... go figure)

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Manny Knowles
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 - posted 05-15-2002 02:03 AM      Profile for Manny Knowles   Email Manny Knowles   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The whole point of arriving early is to select a good seat. I've never obliged those "requests" because I'd be giving up my preferred seat to some random latecomer. No way!

I've sacrificed visits to the concession stand to get the best possible seating and so I'm not too forgiving when I see someone coming up the aisle with a tray full of snacks with that all-too-familiar "where-am-I-supposed-to-sit" look of anticipation on his/her face.

For me, it isn't so much about "personal space" or having a "buffer zone" - although I know that's certainly a real issue for a lot of people. I don't usually care if I end up sitting next to a stranger...except for that one time at Mann's Chinese on Hollywood Blvd in Los Angeles...I was watching MIDNIGHT IN THE GARDEN OF GOOD AND EVIL when this guy sits down next to me, opens a trenchcoat and reveals himself - totally naked - and then starts...ahem...getting animated.

Yeah...that time turned out to be a personal space issue.

I don't have too much say in this anymore, but I used to sell down to 20...and I started giving warnings at the box-office when we were down to 50 - those tickets were marked "LATE" so that I'd know they'd been warned about the seating. We'd still refund them if they came wandering back to the box-office, but it short-circuited any potential dramatizations.

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Jerry Chase
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"MIDNIGHT IN THE GARDEN OF GOOD AND EVIL when this guy sits down next to me, opens a trenchcoat and reveals himself - totally naked - and then starts...ahem...getting animated."

Another reason to always buy an ice cold Coke before entering the auditorium...

Of course you could just lean over tap his shoulder, and ask the guy "Pardon me, is this the animated short subject before the feature?"

These guys depend on shocked silence to do their deed. Teach your kids to respond to the situation by standing up and loudly yelling "Hey everybody, stupid naked man with a tiny .... over here! Come and see!"


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Dustin Mitchell
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Manny, you are saying that if you were sitting in a sold out house with an empty seat on either side of you, you would not move over one seat so a couple could sit together?

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Adam Wilbert
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It feels wierd to quote myself, but here goes:
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My view is this: If a couple wants to purchase four tickets to ensure elbow room, then they're more than welcome to do so.

I had a couple do this today (first time i've ever had it happen). They bought 6 tickets so that they would have a seat on either side of them and two in front left open, and were the first in line for the midnight of SW:EP-2. Upon further consideration, it seemed like it would be a huge hassle to try and keep those seats open, and it would piss off a lot of other customers trying to find seats together. In the end, [edit] everything worked out.

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Jason Black
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And by doing so, and publicy acknowledging it, do you think that would be a violation of booking terms?
Not knocking, just asking.

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Michael Brown
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 - posted 05-17-2002 05:01 AM      Profile for Michael Brown   Email Michael Brown   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
The whole point of arriving early is to select a good seat. I've never obliged those "requests" because I'd be giving up my preferred seat to some random latecomer. No way!


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Manny, you are saying that if you were sitting in a sold out house with an empty seat on either side of you, you would not move over one seat so a couple could sit together?

What time do the couple arrive?

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Dustin Mitchell
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If they arrive before the feature starts I can see no reason why someone wouldn't move over ONE SEAT to accomadate them.

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Adam Wilbert
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 - posted 05-17-2002 02:12 PM      Profile for Adam Wilbert   Author's Homepage   Email Adam Wilbert   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Jason, you may be right. If its any consoloation, they DID purchase six tickets for the two of them, which weren't voided out and resold or anything. Heck, we didn't even sell out for the midnight anyway. But thanks for the warning, i'll go back and cover my rear.

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