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Charles Everett
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Since Miramax has canceled all its advertising with the Village Voice I checked some of the New York-area bookings online.

The Edgewater Multiplex opens 1 print Gangs of New York -- and 2 prints Adaptation (New Jersey exclusive). The Loews Village VII in NYC opens 2 prints Gangs of New York -- plus 2 prints 25th Hour (Oscar Bait) and 1 print Narc (Oscar Bait).

This ain't no Titanic -- it's more like The Postman.

FWIW Peter Travers is a hack critic and the "Two Thumbs Up" guys are seen as hacks.

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Paul Linfesty
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 - posted 12-18-2002 01:33 PM      Profile for Paul Linfesty   Email Paul Linfesty   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Roger Ebert was the first (and only?)film critic (I believe) to win the Pulitzer Prize for film criticism. That's not exactly "hack" territory.

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Mike Spaeth
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Charles -

If Miramax were getting bad reviews, wouldn't they try to open more on the break so that they don't get nabbed by word of mouth?

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Bill Gabel
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 - posted 12-18-2002 05:36 PM      Profile for Bill Gabel   Email Bill Gabel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Maybe Miramax/Touchstone could only get 1500 screens for the opening.
Because over the last few weeks you had, alot of wide releases.
Die Another Day (3377 screens)
Harry Potter (3025)
Maid in Manhattan (2838)
Star Trek (2711)
Analyze That (2635)
Drumline (1835)

This week:
Two Towers (3622)
Wild Thornberry's (3000)
Two Weeks Notice (2500+)
Gangs of New York (1500)

What about next week with "Catch Me If You Can"?

Also "Gangs" is a long movie. 165mins., "Catch Me..." is 140 mins.
Miramax is not affraid of the reviews (right now they have 18 good &
4 bad). With all that product in the theatres, sometimes you can't
get all the screens you want.

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Charles Everett
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Miramax has the critics and Liz Smith, all bought and paid for. All the other pictures have the public -- who AREN'T bought and paid for.

Earlier post edited to more accurately reflect actual bookings.

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David Stambaugh
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Someone at Miramax must be forgetting to mail out the critics' checks on time:

Waking Up In Reno
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Charles Everett
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Kara and Don A are not wrong: Several smaller theaters in New Jersey get Gangs of New York on Xmas Day.

As usual Miramax cares only about itself. The stack ad today in the Newark Star-Ledger tells why:
  • Omits the Touchstone Pictures logo. Gangs of New York is co-financed by Touchstone.
  • Omits the AMC Hamilton 24. AMC considers the Hamilton 24 a North Jersey theater.
  • ID's the AMC Clifton Commons 16 with a MovieFone code. AMC does NOT participate in MovieFone!
  • ID's the Cineplex Odeon theaters (Menlo Park, Newport Centre, Route 4) as Loews. Those theaters have Cineplex Odeon signs.
  • Omits any reference to DTS and SDDS. Gangs of New York is in SR/SRD/SDDS/DTS.
  • Puts a triangle next to certain theaters but doesn't say what the triangle means.
  • Includes the misleading line "And at Theatres Everywhere!" The Wild Thornberrys breaks in 3000~ theaters. Gangs of New York breaks in only 1500~.

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Bill Gabel
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Charles have YOU watched the picture? Oh are hearing this from other
people in the office?? The new reels ones will have the Touchstone Logo. We got the new Miramax/Touchstone reels checked as of last week by Thelma. The tail credits state SRD/SDDS/DTS. And for a person that has worked with the Director & Editor on this picture and that has run 21 screenings of the picture. That you state it omits the Touchstone logo and the SRD/SDDS/DTS. Yes the Touchstone logo, was
added late for the Press screenings. But the Sound logos have been
in place for the last month. That's why looking at the newspaper adds
only give you some of the answers. And Yes, I make a lot of money from Miramax. I think the picture is good and that's all that matters.

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David Stambaugh
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Charles, what's the deal with you & Miramax? Enquiring minds want to know. [Confused] Did someone from Miramax pee on your popcorn or something? Or are you just being a troll [evil] ?

Display ads FREQUENTLY contain erroneous information. The use of the Touchstone logo would be spelled out in the contract between Miramax and Touchstone. Sound formats not listed correctly? What's surprising about that? I have a "Star Trek: Nemesis" 1-sheet on the wall behind me that doesn't have the DTS logo on it, only has Dolby. I guess that's PROOF POSITIVE the Miramax anti-DTS conspiracy has spread to Paramount.

GoNY opens here in Springfield tomorrow. Trust me -- that validates the use of the "Theatres Everywhere" claim.

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Bill Gabel
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Maybe next week Charles will be pee ed at Focus for the release of
"The Pianist", they are giving away like a 50 page books on the film
for Academy screenings. Miramax are only giving away regular press
notes on their screenings for their films. [Big Grin]

Which studio is buying votes????

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John Hawkinson
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Wow, tough crowd!
As long as we're editting: CHARLES: where's that long-promised picture?

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Bill Gabel
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That's Right!

News Paper asst. vs. Studio post-projectionsist.

Paper vs. film

[Big Grin]

words vs. frames

Thanks Dave.

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Brad Miller
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Well Bill, tell this Thelma person that she should release all of the prints simultaneously, for this movie will tank once people see how bad it is. There was staff in the auditorium screening this tonight that was all jazzed up to see this film...and EVERYONE ended up walking out! I have nothing good to say about this film at all. Anyone think I am kidding, just watch the first reel. The acting is unbelieveably bad. The movie was godawful. We're talking only slightly better than a Chuck Norris movie here.
[puke]

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Bob Maar
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I was going to stay out of this frey..but now that My Hero Walker is being dissed. A word of warning:Think twice before you answer the next knock on your door. [Eek!]

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Charles Everett
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Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa! The Clairidge isn't getting Gangs of New York after all -- it's brought back My Big Fat Greek Wedding [Big Grin] until Xmas Eve and is due to open Rabbit-Proof Fence on Xmas Day. Earlier posts edited to reflect this change.

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