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Author Topic: Gangs Of NY (booking question) Bill Gabel Film God Posts: 3873 From: Technicolor / Postworks NY, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 12-20-2002 12:03 PM                     Thanks Brad. I'll tell Thelma. Maybe it's a New York thing After working with Marty & Thelma for the last 4 months on this, I'm glad it's finally getting released. Post-Production was rough on this picture, but thats what you get from working with top talent. Thelma is Marty's editor.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 12-20-2002 08:10 PM                     quote: My Hero Walker is being dissed You're always joking Bob, right? Please tell me you are.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 12-21-2002 01:27 AM                        I wish I could act as well as Chuck Norris. How many Academy Awards has he won? 9? 12? 15? Hard to keep track.  |  IP: Logged Bob Maar (Maar stands for Maartini) Posts: 28608 From: New York City & Newport, RI Registered: Feb 2001 posted 12-21-2002 08:37 AM                        Brad, Don't tell Joe but I have never seen a Chuck Norris movie. I have seen, Walker Texas Ranger, and I liked Chuck Norris as Walker Texas Ranger. Since Chuck is just a year younger than me (he's Paul Thompson's age) a mere baby, I feel I must stand up for him. Besides Dwayne worked on his projects, running the rushes and letting the whole crew know about www.film-tech.com  |  IP: Logged Dwayne Caldwell Master Film Handler Posts: 323 From: Rockwall, TX, USA Registered: Apr 2000 posted 12-21-2002 09:12 AM                     Bob, I'd gladly welcome a bullet to the temple any day then work on a Chuck Norris project. I mean I'd have to end my life knowing I was involved in something like that anyway. But I have told the crew members (i.e. Chucky's cronies) about film-tech and they want to know if I can get any 70mm Chuck Norris films which we all know are extremely valuable collectibles.  |  IP: Logged Bob Maar (Maar stands for Maartini) Posts: 28608 From: New York City & Newport, RI Registered: Feb 2001 posted 12-21-2002 10:16 AM                        Well, I think I know what is going on here. It is really Joe who runs the rushes for Chuck Norris,...but knowing the way that Brad and you feel about Chuck, he uses his skills as a co-moderator to pretend he is really Dwane Caldwell there-by giving the credit to you. Remember where Joe comes from..That's right he is always and forever on a Rocky Mountain High. In the real world Chuck Norris is Joe Redifer's real life hero and the more he denies it...the more we know it is a true fact.  |  IP: Logged Dustin Mitchell Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1865 From: Mondovi, WI, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 12-24-2002 02:57 AM                     Does Miramax place their own ads in the New York area because of the large market? Because normaly Miramax doesn't use an agency to place their ads; the theatre/city managers place the ad and are therefore responsible for including correct information about locations and sound formats.  |  IP: Logged Charles Everett Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1470 From: New Jersey Registered: May 2001 posted 12-24-2002 07:17 AM                     Miramax's stack ads say the AMC Essex Green in West Orange NJ opens Gangs of New York on Xmas Day. Guess what? Antwone Fisher expands to NYC suburbs for Xmas -- and Essex Green will now open Antwone Fisher. That's what a heavily hyped opening in back of JLo will do for you. FWIW Chicago opens in 30 cities day-and-date with NYC/LA. That tells me the Weinstein family is afraid of not one but two Oscar Bait flops.  |  IP: Logged Paul Linfesty Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1383 From: Bakersfield, CA, USA Registered: Nov 1999 posted 12-24-2002 08:58 AM                     quote: FWIW Chicago opens in 30 cities day-and-date with NYC/LA. That tells me the Weinstein family is afraid of not one but two Oscar Bait flops. Or maybe they just want to exploit the 8 Golden Globe nominations Chicago receieved or the many reviewers that have like the film (yeah, I know, I'm sure they are all hacks).  |  IP: Logged Charles Everett Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1470 From: New Jersey Registered: May 2001 posted 12-29-2002 06:25 PM                     My premonition came true. Pinocchio has tanked -- it even got beat out by Chicago, rush-released by the same studio. Gangs of New York needed those extra theaters on Xmas Day to avoid a big 2nd-weekend dropoff. Dustin: All stack ads in the NYC metro are agency ads. Most studios are diligent when it comes to getting theater names, towns, phone numbers and sound formats correct. Miramax is plain sloppy and often wrong. Paul L: The AMC Hamilton opened Chicago on 12/27 -- day-and-date with the Ziegfeld in NYC. There were no ads for Chicago in the Trenton newspapers. Because there was no print advertising the only thing Miramax could rely on was a ton of hype. Miramax pulls this crap most every year -- ask our fellow Film-Techer Ian Price.  |  IP: Logged Paul Linfesty Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1383 From: Bakersfield, CA, USA Registered: Nov 1999 posted 12-30-2002 12:46 AM                     From Variety: Miramax's "Chicago" staged a particularly boffo bow, as the critically lauded musical grossed an estimated $2.1 million from 77 playdates in 22 markets. Yeah, I guess that is a pretty good total, considering "no advertising." I wonder what will happen to the b.o. if they start running ads? (actually, I've seen quite a few ads). Print advertising has been losing some of its luster in the past few years, as distributors explore other avenues for targeting potential customers. Charles, you seem to have this gleeful anti-Miramax attitude that seems almost spireful. Have you SEEN Chicago or Gangs of New York? It's like you are rooting for them to fail, sight unseen.  |  IP: Logged Charles Everett Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1470 From: New Jersey Registered: May 2001 posted 01-06-2003 04:12 PM                     Looks like the Weinstein family has set it off again. The Mann National in Westwood/LA dropped Star Trek: Nemesis to pick up Gangs of New York. According to Leonard Klady of Movie City News, Paramount has retaliated by pulling all its product out of all Mann Theatres. That ban includes "Oscar Bait" titles Narc and The Hours. The kicker is that Paramount is reportedly a part owner of the Mann circuit.  |  IP: Logged Bill Gabel Film God Posts: 3873 From: Technicolor / Postworks NY, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 01-06-2003 04:27 PM                     That Mann move with the National is over a week old. "Gangs" opened in Westwood at the smaller Festival Theatre, than moved over to the National, so that "The Hours" could open in a medium sized house. The Hours would have played better over at the Bruin. But Two Weeks Notice is holding over in that house. "Gangs" opened in the main house over at the Chinese in Hollywood. This musical theatres thing is old news in Westwood. It happens every year around X-Mas and Summer. It happened with Mann on Fox back in 1977, with Columbia in the mid 80's. GCC had it happen in the mid 90's with Fox on the West Coast. In Westwood, the two large theatres are the Village (1500) and the National (1125). The next theatre was the GCC Avco (1100)(but some bonehead, twinned the main house). The Bruin and the Crest and the Festival Theatres are the next houses in demand by the studios.  |  IP: Logged Paul Linfesty Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1383 From: Bakersfield, CA, USA Registered: Nov 1999 posted 01-06-2003 11:34 PM                     As Bill Gabel says, there is NOTHING new about what happened in Westwood. For years now, Mann has treated its Westwood singles like one multiplex, starting blockbusters in the bigger theatres and then shifting down. In it's second week, Star Trek fell badly, and in this era of the multiplex, a big single like the National can't afford to hold on to a film like that for long. And THE HOURS is STILL playing the Festival, proof it wasn't pulled. And NARC wasn't playing at Mann theatres at all, so it obviously hasn't been pulled. Really, Charles, your anti-Mirimax bias is showing again. Yes, they are a publicity seeking studio. What distributor isnt? So they're able to get their movies good playdates. Well, good for them. ALL distributors want to do that. No one is going to nominate the Weinsteins for Humanitarian of the Year. Probably matters to their employees. I'm not one, though. From what one hears of movie moguls, they're probably tame by the pioneers of the industry.  |  IP: Logged Bill Gabel Film God Posts: 3873 From: Technicolor / Postworks NY, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 01-07-2003 01:11 PM                     When Narc opened, it opened at three theatres in Los Angeles area. Mann's Criterion in Santa Monica, Pacific's Arclight in Hollywood and Loew's Century Plaza in Century City. Thanks Paul very nicely put.  |  IP: Logged

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