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Author Topic: Syrup Lines - Overhead or under the slab Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 01-14-2003 03:49 PM                     Actually for a small installation, I think Adam really does have the best idea. Jason, I never cared for the "mix in the cup" dispensers. For some reason there was always too much CO2 in the mix. At the time I was around them I knew nothing about brixing, so that may have been the problem.  |  IP: Logged Mike Spaeth Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1129 From: Marietta, GA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 01-15-2003 12:05 AM                        Jason - Those machines were made by the A B C Beverage Company. I know most of them have been replaced w/ Lancers since the aforementioned company is out of business and parts are not available for repair. The best thing about those machines was that if you wanted an extra-sweet soda, you could just hold the cup under a syrup stream for the last second or two.  |  IP: Logged Stephen Jones 1 Film Handler Posts: 62 From: Tulsa, OK, USA Registered: Aug 1999 posted 01-15-2003 02:05 AM                        I remember back when I worked at the Cinemark off Webb Chapel. We'd always have complaints from customers thinking that we were secretly giving them sprite as they did not see the syrup shooting in from the side. Always made quite a mess for any employee trying to refill a 20 oz bottle. All CO2 and no syrup.  |  IP: Logged Barry Floyd Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1079 From: Lebanon, Tennessee, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 01-15-2003 08:45 AM                        I COULD put the whole system, with the exception of the CO2 tank under the front counter, ... I do have the room. The main reason why I'm willing to go to a little extra expense to put them in the store room is the "obnoxious" farting sounds made by the pumps. I hate that sound, and really don't want it filling my small 12'-6" x 34'-0" lobby. With this theatre being a completely new facility, I do have the luxury of placing equipment almost anywhere I want to.  |  IP: Logged Justin West Master Film Handler Posts: 271 From: Peoria, IL, USA Registered: Jul 2001 posted 01-15-2003 08:23 PM                     WHO f@rted?! But seriously, I agree with Barry on the obnoxious noises and if you have the space, hide them in back or in a closet!  |  IP: Logged Aaron Mehocic Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 804 From: New Castle, PA, USA Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-18-2003 01:12 PM                     At my theater we run everything overhead and have never had any problems with airlocks or anything of that such. That also includes our Icee machine as well. One thing you guys should be aware of (if serving Pepsi products), the Fruitworks without having a break in the line, transfers through the plastic somehow and infects the other soda lines within the fountain. Pepsi will not comment on this since they have to replace all the infected lines, but after having Fruitworks taste in all of our sodas, a Pepsi driver admitted that the company knows whats going on but he wasn't supposed to talk about it. Apparently Pepsi has changed the syrup composition of the Fruitworks to stop this, but we got rid of the drink since it sucked anyway. Changing out the Fruitworks line itself will not work to eliminate the taste. We tried that. All the lines must be changed out with it, for the Fruitworks residue will stay for a lomg time.  |  IP: Logged Steve Kraus Film God Posts: 4094 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 01-18-2003 07:12 PM                    I'd be very afraid of a drink whose syrup has some component that can leach right through the lines.  |  IP: Logged Mike Williams Master Film Handler Posts: 255 From: Knoxville, TN Registered: Feb 2002 posted 01-19-2003 06:01 AM                     If it can leach trhrough plastic lines, imagine what it could do to your digestive track.  |  IP: Logged Thomas Procyk Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1842 From: Royal Palm Beach, FL, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 01-19-2003 11:06 AM                     What is "Brixing?" I've heard a similar claim about "Mug Rootbeer", that the rootbeer taste can "seep into" the other lines, causing everything to taste like rootbeer. I remember the Pepsi people there for just about the whole day going under the counters and such when we got that. =TMP=  |  IP: Logged Ian Price Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1714 From: Denver, CO Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-19-2003 11:39 AM                     A Brix cup is a device you use to measure the syrup and water ratio of your fountain drinks. There are two common ratios; they are 5 to 1 and 5.5 to 1. Properly brixed the fountain will dispense a quality product. If the balance goes off then the soda pop could be too sweet or too watery. McDonalds has a policy of Brixing their soda heads weekly. I think a movie theatre should check their brix mix monthly of if someone perceives a problem. Most soda companies will not give you a brix kit because they would prefer to send their tech out. Cold is absolutely necessary for Soda Pop to maintain its carbonation. So the most important thing you can do to make sure your Soda tastes good is keep the ice bin full. The best Soda Fountains used to have a refrigeration unit. But modern Soda Fountains use and aluminum plate in the ice bin to refrigerate the soda. Fast Flow or Turbo heads don’t allow the soda enough time to cool before being dispensed. So: Go for Low Flow Heads Keep them Brixed Keep the ice bins filled  |  IP: Logged David Stambaugh Film God Posts: 4021 From: Eugene, Oregon Registered: Jan 2002 posted 01-19-2003 12:01 PM                        quote: I'd be very afraid of a drink whose syrup has some component that can leach right through the lines. Way back when I worked in a fish & chips store (during high school) we had constant problems with Coke syrup eating through the copper drain line of the fountain, which had a low spot in it where the syrup would collect. We ended up having to flush out the drain line every night with a pot of boiling water to stop this from happening.  |  IP: Logged Steve Anderson Expert Film Handler Posts: 168 From: Nashville, TN Registered: Feb 2000 posted 01-22-2003 09:08 PM                        The owners of the theater I manage rebuilt the concession area and replaced the nice Coke fountian with those crappy wonderBar drink guns....the drinks taste like But the owners wife liked the idea of having those drink guns. Hell even the coke people tried to talk them out of it. Our syrup lines and CO2 are upstairs.  |  IP: Logged System Notices Forum Watchdog / Soup Nazi Posts: 215 Registered: Apr 2004 posted 06-21-2004 05:41 PM                 It has been 515 days since the last post.  |  IP: Logged Tony Bandiera Jr Film God Posts: 3067 From: Moreland Idaho Registered: Apr 2004 posted 06-21-2004 05:41 PM                     Some time back a local theatre here in So Cali discovered much to their horror (and disgust) that the steel (galvanized?) pipes for their syrup had completely rotted away. The syrup was getting to the fountains via the "tunnel" left in the slab. Never trusted the drinks from that chain ever again. I'd place a vote for overhead lines.  |  IP: Logged Mark Hajducki Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 500 From: Edinburgh, UK Registered: May 2003 posted 06-21-2004 07:16 PM                     quote: Steve Anderson The owners of the theater I manage rebuilt the concession area and replaced the nice Coke fountian with those crappy wonderBar drink guns I was in a local new build 4 plex recently and ordered a large Pepsi and witnessed the consessions/bar staff member using two guns to fill the cup (since they provided such a weak flow)  |  IP: Logged

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