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Author Topic: What are you wearing? Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 07-02-2003 06:58 AM                        I'm with Rachel on the ties issue. After all, if the women are required to wear ties, should men be required to wear skirts? Apart from Marlene Dietrich in Morocco I don't think I've ever seen the former. And as for the latter... well, unless you happen to be in Scotland you can expect some very strange looks indeed. All cinema staff on duty should, IMHO, wear some sort of uniform, so that they are readily identifiable to customers (especially in an emergency). In the last projectionist job I had I wasn't required to. One evening I had to fight my way through a corridor full of queueing customers to get at a projection box, many of whom assumed I was another customer pushing in through the queue. After that I started wearing the company polo shirts provided to front-of-house staff and customers would always clear a path to let me through when I had to move quickly through public areas of the building.  |  IP: Logged Kevin Baglow Expert Film Handler Posts: 135 From: Yeppoon Qld, Australia Registered: Dec 2000 posted 07-02-2003 07:46 AM                        Yep, it's not so much what you wear as how you wear it. It's really obvious how much effort you put into personal grooming. The more you put into it, the more you get back. We go for polo shirt (many colours)& black trouses - No sports shoes - only black leather- cinema is a semi-formal ocasion after all. The pin on name tag makes it look official.  |  IP: Logged Rachel Craven Madam Moderator Posts: 2190 From: Pensacola, FL Registered: Dec 2000 posted 07-02-2003 12:40 PM                     THANK YOU LEO! The thought of Brad in a skirt is odd yet intriguing... Where I work now, everyone wears the same thing. I don't see anything wrong with it, in fact I like it. But womens and mens dress clothing doesn't typically mean the same thing.  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 07-03-2003 01:47 AM                        quote: The thought of Brad in a skirt is odd yet intriguing... I can easily picture Brad in a skirt. I do not know why, though. quote: Where I work now, everyone wears the same thing. Do you ALL wear cowboy hats?  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 07-03-2003 01:53 AM                     If I could swap the skirt for a kilt, then you may have something. Still, the tie is a damned noose that puts me in such a bad mood you don't want to be within 10 miles of me when I have one on. If corporate wants men to wear ties and yet the women do not have to, that is discrimination as far as I am concerned. Ties are evil.  |  IP: Logged John Westlund Expert Film Handler Posts: 204 From: Burney, CA, USA Registered: Jun 2001 posted 07-03-2003 01:59 AM                     We have shirts that have the theatre logo on them that we sometimes wear to work. Most of the time however, we all have to wear black pants, white shirts, and ties (I don't wear a tie when in the booth). The men and women wear the ties.  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 07-03-2003 08:03 AM                        quote: If corporate wants men to wear ties and yet the women do not have to, that is discrimination as far as I am concerned. If it's any consolation, an employment tribunal in Britain agreed with you: link to story. I don't think this is a very good comparison though, because in this case men were required to conform to a dress code whereas women could wear whatever they liked, which is clearly discriminatory. I'm not so sure it would be discrimination for an employer to place restrictions on both men and women, even if they were different ones. For example, a man might resent having to wear a tie, but by the same token a woman in the same workplace might also resent having to wear a skirt. As Rachel points out, informal dress (e.g. Jeans and a t-shirt) is often the same for men and women, but formal dress certainly isn't: it involves wearing garments which are gender-specific. IMHO a workplace should either have no dress code at all, or a dress code/uniform which applies equally to men and women, even if what you're actually being asked to wear is different.  |  IP: Logged Paul Salley Expert Film Handler Posts: 105 From: Liberal, Kansas Registered: Jan 2001 posted 07-03-2003 11:24 AM                  Our booth dress code is simple. Company polo shirt w/ jeans or pants and comfortable shoes. The booth staff must remove the company polo when traveling downstairs, this is so we are not stopped by customers while trying to return to the booth to thread or check startup of a feature. Everyone brings an extra Tshirt to take breaks.  |  IP: Logged Gerard S. Cohen Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 975 From: Forest Hills, NY, USA Registered: Sep 2001 posted 07-03-2003 08:45 PM                     During the years I worked carbon arc/changeovers on 42nd Street, I wore U.S.Army green fatigues. The booths were not air conditioned, opening the portholes sucked in cool air but also tobacco and marijuana smoke, and the carbon grit, lubricants, 40 years of dust plus the godawful stink made combat attire appropriate. In summer, some projectionists wore just undershorts. Working platters, I wore T-shirts and jeans, with sneakers or roller skates, the last in a 14-plex with 160-yard-long booth with vinyl-tiled floors. The cracks between tiles gave a gentle massage that kept my leg muscles from getting sore, but an assistant manager worried about accidents. ( Actually, tilting forward onto the skates' bumper blocks gave a non-slip stance useful for attending the machines.) I would NEVER wear a tie near machinery. It's probably against OSHA regulations, and if anyone wearing one had an injury as a result, there would be hell to pay from OSHA and Workman's Comp. and the management would be liable. The manager at my last steady job had each projectionist read and sign every page of every OSHA regulation in his presence, even those that referred to concession hardware, which was outside the scope of union projectionists employment. Anyone requiring a projectionist to wear a tie should be hanged by one, IMHO.  |  IP: Logged Michael Gonzalez Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 790 From: Grand Island , NE USA Registered: Sep 2000 posted 07-03-2003 08:53 PM                     Is there some company somewhere that in there dress code they REQUIRE women to wear skirts? Other than Star Trek TOS I have never found that to be the case anywhere. Usually the women have the OPTION to wear a skirt if they so choose (with the company sometime dictating the desired length and fabric) men on the other hand, do not have a choice, they have to wear long pants, a dress shirt and a tie no matter how hot it may be.  |  IP: Logged Lindsay Morris Expert Film Handler Posts: 233 From: Darlington, WA, Australia Registered: Sep 2002 posted 07-03-2003 10:35 PM                     The dress code we have setup for Kookaburra (in consultation with the staff) is quite simple.. black & white. The girls wear black skirts or jeans with white tops of their own choosing in style and the blokes wear black trousers and white shirts. The ONLY one to wear a tie of any sort is the doorman who wears a very neat bow tie. As the owner/manager/projectionist I wear as seen in the photo.. black trousers and white shirt and NEVER a tie. The booth does get VERY hot during our season and 40c is not uncommon on hot nights. However a large fan and being able to simply walk outside while the show is on and sit on the grass alongside the booth does not make those sorts of temps unbearable. Things will be a little better as far as temp goes once the carbon arcs come out and the Century with a xenon goes in but there will not be any recourse to an AC unit as it is just not needed. It is esential that I am indentified as part of the staff as once the show is well under way the front of house staff leave and from then on in it is only ME there so I must be indentifiable to any patron with a problem. Also as patrons depart it is the projectionist role to handout the program sheets to patrons and once all have gone close the place down. At least once a week we will have patrons scuttling back for stuff they have left behind so again the staff must be indentifiable and have found by experience that the black and white attire is ideal. Could not in my wildest dreams imagine wearing a tie around the old Simplex standards as if that big flywheel ever got hold of a tie or some other floppy apparell you would have a big spinning flywheel right in your face in milliseconds and probably loose a few teeth into the bargain. And the motor switch is a bit hard to reach being on the other side of the machine. I have a small scar on my stomach inflicted by a Siemens SI teleprinter which I was servicing at a NW airport installation some years ago. I had the covers off resetting the "range" of the machine and just let a loose shirt get too close to a gear that drove the tape transmitter on the front of the machine. In seconds that gear had my shirt and a fair chunk of my tummy wrapped up in it with me frantically trying to reach the switch at the back to shut the brute off. I literally had a 30kg machine attached to my middle bits for quite some time. I had to unscrew the the tape unit mounting and wind the gears backwards to get it off me. All not before the airport staff had managed to grab a camera and photograph the "Incident" for their Safety Magazine. More modern projectors tend to have most spinning bits well enclosed but a tie into a spinning platter on makeup or breakdown is also a possibility so NO Ties for me anywhere in the bio box. Just neat clean and indentifiable to patrons as our setup is a little different to many others. Lindsay  |  IP: Logged Ian Price Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1714 From: Denver, CO Registered: Jun 99 posted 07-04-2003 01:04 PM                     I'm wearing a pair of shorts with a short sleave button down shirt. On my feet I have a pair of New Balance running shoes. Having had a couple of jobs where a tie was required, I felt that if I owned a movie theatre, I would be somewhat relaxed about the dress code. Here it is: We provide t-shirts with logos so we encourage you to wear them. If you would like to wear someting better, be our guest. Please don't wear anything that you would be crushed to get butter stains on. No sleevless shirts, no t-shirts with logos or images other than ours, no underarms, no open toed shoes. Shorts, jeans and sneakers are ok.  |  IP: Logged Michael Gonzalez Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 790 From: Grand Island , NE USA Registered: Sep 2000 posted 07-04-2003 01:56 PM                     At the company I work for the managers have to wear dress pants (women having the option of wearing a dress skirt), dress shirt (with a tie for men), and a jacket either one of your own or the company supplied navy blazer with company logo, oh and of course a name tag. I can say that I have ruined many a shirt and pants working on the projectors or having to climb behind a screen to fix a speaker. The general staff have to wear black pants they can be jeans but they have to be all black (no white threads) and they cannot be too baggy. They have to wear a white dress shirt and black shoes (they can be sneakers but once again they have to be solid black). The uniform is topped of with a company supplied maroon vest and a clip-on black tie. I like the multiple color polo shirt idea. You give them one color of their choice (with company logo) when they start working and they have to option of buying other colors from the company at cost. That would work out pretty good because the employees wont feel that they are wearing the same old uniform every time they work. Though we do let them wear their pieces of flair (movie buttons from the film companies).  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 07-04-2003 02:18 PM                     Does your company require 18 pieces of flair?  |  IP: Logged Michael Gonzalez Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 790 From: Grand Island , NE USA Registered: Sep 2000 posted 07-04-2003 03:37 PM                     Nope. Anywhere from Zero (not counting the required name tag) to the girl who wears so many you cannot tell what color her vest is. The only restriction is that they cannot wear buttons for movies that have come and gone.  |  IP: Logged

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