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Travis Hubrig
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 - posted 07-10-2003 03:40 PM      Profile for Travis Hubrig   Email Travis Hubrig   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Carl,

Are you calling me Fascist???
quote:
fascistic enforcement of arbitrary rules will lead to turnover.
If rules and policies are enforced and enforced consistently then it will not be a problem.
If you enforce rules "ARBITRARILY" (good word) then you will have problems.
It is not hard to wear a uniform to work, and most employees understand and agree.

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Carl Martin
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 - posted 07-10-2003 05:11 PM      Profile for Carl Martin   Author's Homepage   Email Carl Martin   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
Are you calling me Fascist???
it sounds like the company you work for has fascist tendencies. don't take that too offensively; most do.

i would say the rule requiring ties and sportcoats (for men) is arbitrary. it doesn't serve to uniquely identify the staff as many civilians are liable to be wearing something similar (probably arbitrarily mandated at their jobs). in the summer it must be pretty uncomfortable, based on my limited experience of midwestern summers.

if you can get away with being naked in the booth, my hat is off to you.

carl

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Darren Briggs
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 - posted 07-15-2003 05:07 PM      Profile for Darren Briggs   Author's Homepage   Email Darren Briggs   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well today as it is one of the hottest days here in the U.K for years, i was wearing sandles, shorts and a dolby t shirt.
And tomorrow i may or may not wear a thong! [Wink]

good weather for [beer]

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Scott D. Neff
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 - posted 07-15-2003 06:42 PM      Profile for Scott D. Neff   Author's Homepage   Email Scott D. Neff   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
It sucked at Cinema West as I'm sure it does at MANY theatres without adequate HVAC in the offices or the booth. I used to ROAST in the Summer and freeze in the Winter. Some days I would wear the employee polo-shirt if I just didn't wanna get dressed up. But I made sure on weekends I was wearing something close to professional attire.

I never had a problem wearing a required uniform. Whether I was a manager or a projectionist. Even when I worked for UA and had to wear the hideous purple and teal uniforms... it saved ME from having to ruin my clothes and it made it so I didn't have to figure out what I wanted to wear that day.

As a manager I always had trouble getting my projectionists to wear a uniform. They always asked why they had to wear a uniform when they were just in the booth all day. Which I totally agree with. However, we had our projectionists going down into the auditoriums to check on presentation after the set started, and it was THEN I didn't want customers seeing some guy in jeans and a t-shirt just walking into every auditorium and then walking out... it just gives the wrong idea.

Luckily though I'm not a manager anymore... I'm sure there's a generation of Cinema West projectionists that are glad they never worked for me. [Smile]

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Jonathan Ralston
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 - posted 07-29-2003 01:25 AM      Profile for Jonathan Ralston   Email Jonathan Ralston   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
My theater requires managers to wear company suits (navy blue coats and pants, white shirt, and any tie). Women wear basically the same, but any white dressy shirt. All managers are projectionists and whenever they're working in the booth, they must wear navy blue pants, and a navy blue polo shirt with the National Amusements logo on the sleeve. I'm just booth help and can wear basically whatever I want.

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Chris Hipp
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 - posted 07-29-2003 02:19 AM      Profile for Chris Hipp   Email Chris Hipp   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I've always felt that telling guys that they cannot have long hair but that is it ok for women is totally sexist. It amazes me that we live in a world where we are taught/bombarded with the idea that you should judge someone by what's "on the inside," but these practices are still common among the majority or schools and businesses, at least in this area.

Personally, if I was the boss I would not have any uniform policy that would affect how someone chooses to look outside of work.

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Rachel Craven
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 - posted 07-30-2003 10:17 PM      Profile for Rachel Craven   Email Rachel Craven   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Was someone talking about men having long hair? Eh, I don't want to scan backwards...

I don't think there is anything wrong with men having long hair but just like the female staff I think that it should be held back with a band. When you are in a food environment that is necessary...even if you are working box or booth you may go behind the stand.

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Ian Price
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Things that I think are ok these days (and have been since the 1980s)

Unnatural hair color
Nose Rings
Discreet Tattoos
Long Hair on men
Shaved heads on women
Multiple Ear Piercing
Discreet Piercing
A bent for vintage clothing
Fishnet Stockings
And of course, my outfit! [Big Grin]

But with all things, one can go too far. What we don't like to see (for safety and hygiene) are people’s armpits and toes.

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John Spooner
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It would certainly seem that with my traditional Aussie tank top (the yellow garment) and my trade mark bandana I would not win a prize for the best dressed.
Then again we sell tickets to see what is on the screen, not to the booth.

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Jannette McQueen
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 - posted 09-12-2003 12:57 AM      Profile for Jannette McQueen   Email Jannette McQueen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
Darren Briggs wrote:

i was wearing sandles, shorts and a dolby t shirt.

I saw that reply a while back, and immediately went out to find the dolby website shop and I just ordered a couple the other day [Embarrassed]

Aaaaanyway ...

The projectionists where I work can wear whatever the hell they want .... uh .... within reason I guess, though I don't think anyone has tested that [Wink] But one of our guys wears the heavy metal t-shirts, so I really don't think it matters at all what we wear. I tend to wear a pair of pants with nice big pockets and a t-shirt and a button-up sweater over top, just in case the air conditioning doesn't suit me (and due to the fact that as I was growing up, my dad always forbade me to touch the thermostat I don't like to adjust it even when I'm not at home and I can do whatever I want).

Our managers just have to wear something nice. Most of the guys wear a tie, but I'm not sure whether or not that's an actual *requirement*. They might just think that that looks professional, so that's what they'll do. And our female manager has never worn a skirt to the best of my memory (and while my memory isn't the best, I can't see her wearing one, so I'm sure she hasn't), nor does she wear a tie. But she's always dressed very nicely [Smile]

All the floor staff wear black pants and a white shirt. And in addition to that, the ushers have a nice little black bow-tie (or if they're very unlucky they get stuck with a red one [evil] And the girls wear a red "tie" which is just a piece of cloth, and is just flipped once (as in, they don't make an actual windsor knot or anything). Anyone in concession wears a black apron over that. And the Box office people can do whatever they want really. Usually the girls try to change it somehow. I myself, wear a black sweater over my white shirt and red tie. One woman wears one of the tacky "popcorn vests". The guys don't seem to care all that much and just stick to the white shirt and black bowtie. To me, the stupid red tie and just a plain white shirt looks weird. And since the tie is just a piece of cloth, it usually has some stray threads and junk at the end, and it just looks *unfinished* somehow. I like my sweater :E

la la la, I ramble on too much [Wink]

EDIT: Ah! I must tell one story. One of the guys who works in the projection hall once a week one time came to work, just after his other job at the hotel, where he has to wear a neck tie, and he's going about, threading the projectors, and I couldn't believe he was doing all this with his tie on. Tried to tell him he was flirting with death, but he just joked that it would put him out of his misery sooner O_o

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Ky Boyd
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Jumping into the fray very late....

Brad, I'm totally with you on the tie thing and the differences between men's professional dress and women's professional dress. Men should be allowed the same creativity and variety in their professional dress as women. Professional does not equal a tie! And while I'm on that point, I'll also rant about women who feel the need to wear big freakin bows. Why do they feel the need to go out looking like they've been gift wrapped??? I don't get it!

Regarding ties in the projection booth: When I worked for Landmark, where we were required to wear ties for floor staff and management, if you operated equipment in the booth, you wore a safety tie. For those who don't know, a safety tie attaches at the back of the neck with velcro, so that if its caught in machinery it will rip off or can be ripped off thus preventing injury. Personally, I don't think projectionist should wear ties ever! Interestingly at Landmark in SF, projectionists wore whatever they wanted if it was a projection only shift, which for the union guys was always the case.

Regarding the dress code at Ian's and my theatre: To Ian's first post I would add the following caveat on Rialto T-shirt or better: Appearance should be clean and neat. Clothes should have no rips, tears, stains, or holes. No exposed armpits and no exposed navels. (Work is not a Shania Twain concert). No open toed shoes for men or women for safety reasons. One of our managers wears the exact same thing everyday - black polo shirt and cargo shorts. So when we ordered the last batch of logo'd stuff, we got him 6 black logo'd poloshirts.

I can't believe how chincy Madstone is when they hire someone. I mean one t-shirt. That's ridiculous. We give our employees 3 and more if they need them. We also issue new t-shirts to our employees when they start turning up in ones that look like they need to be replaced.

As for the person who had to do projection AND clean the popper - that's harsh!

As for what do I wear - whatever I damn well please, I own the joint. I do realize that leading by example works, so I always try to be clean and neat even though most of the time I'm wearing t-shirts and jeans. Sometimes I wear a theatre t-shirt, sometimes not. It's nice to be somewhat anonymous. It allows me to move through the building quicker. And I definitely don't wear anything that I don't want butter on. Butter (and oil) happen. It's an occupational hazard.

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Steve Anderson
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The owners just gave us new tee-shirts to wear.
They are yellow, blue, and neon green tie-dyed shirts which have this big spiral design.
I look like a BLIMP on acid!

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Brad Miller
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 - posted 07-09-2004 01:45 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Picking up from the duplicate thread here.

I couldn't disagree more and even though I have ranted about this in earlier pages on this thread, I shall do so again. Booth staff if they are doing their job right should never be seen. The movie should just somehow miraculously start on time with perfect focus and ideal sound level, then run without technical interruption of any kind. Frequently the company issued uniforms are uncomfortable or hot, and we all know how theater owners like to cheap-out with the AC in many booths. Some uniforms actually force wearing ties or suspenders, which is ridiculous as they could get caught in the machinery and pull you into it! During auditorium checks, they should blend in like a regular patron. If they look official, then people will stop them to ask questions and such, and more often than not, the projectionist is not going to be as much "in the know" about current floor operations as a regular downstairs staff member.

Let the projectionists do their job and the downstairs staff do their job. Booth uniforms are stupid.

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Ron Yost
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Wearing long-sleeves when operating (or even around) exposed, moving machinery is also dangerous. Short-sleeves, no ties, should be mandatory in booths, in my humble opinion.

Ron Yost ... yours in safety. [thumbsup]

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Wolff King Morrow
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From Brad:

quote: Brad Miller
If they look official, then people will stop them to ask questions and such, and more often than not, the projectionist is not going to be as much "in the know" about current floor operations as a regular downstairs staff member.
Ironically, the very reason such dress codes are enforced is because they want you to look like an employee when you go downstairs. You can even get write-ups or eventually fired if you are caught out of uniform downstairs.

I tend to agree with your points though.

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