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John Hawkinson
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posted 07-31-2003 10:36 AM

Hey, Tim, are they high-magenta?

--jhawk

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Sam Hunter
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posted 07-31-2003 10:45 AM

Tim said,

quote:
We could easily remake that one, but don't count on it. Unless someone wants to subsidize it themselves. We just spent a great deal of time, money, and effort to research and digitally-remaster a catalog of old drive-in trailers that everyone said they couldn't live without.
Screen Attractions

That Perspective Coming Soon trailer is one I have been looking for. Looks like I need to make an order.
[thumbsup]

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Tim Reed
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posted 07-31-2003 12:45 PM

John, they are good ol' fashioned, "environment-destroying", curve-your-spine SILVER tracks! And they're Dolby SR... sound great!
[Big Grin]

Sam, thanks. Please do, I appreciate it! Everything's ready and waiting for good homes.

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John Pytlak
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posted 07-31-2003 01:31 PM

Tim Reed wrote:

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John, they are good ol' fashioned, "environment-destroying", curve-your-spine SILVER tracks! And they're Dolby SR... sound great!

"High Magenta" tracks DO have the silver redeveloped. They are more compatible when there is a MIX of tunsten and red LED readers, as there is today. If you had your prints made with the old cyan+magenta+silver, which readers did you optimize the cross-modulation distortion for? Did you make separate inventories of prints for each type of reader?

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Tim Reed
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posted 07-31-2003 03:37 PM

If they were high magenta, I would have answered "yes".

I will tell you which readers the prints are set up for, when you place an order. Otherwise, you'll have to contact NT Audio, and/or Technicolor, if you really want cross-mod results.
[Roll Eyes]

We've played the prints in both exciter and red-reader SR auditoriums and everyone is in agreement that they sound fabulous.

[ 07-31-2003, 07:50 PM: Message edited by: Tim Reed ]

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Michael Gonzalez
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posted 07-31-2003 05:14 PM

I know that this is slightly off topic but how exactly does a drive-in theater get away with show X-rated movies? I mean unless the theater is located out in the middle of nowhere, how does one prevent people (children) from being exposed to the content on the screen if they just happen to be just driving by? I know that the drive-in that was located by where I lived (long since closed down), the screen(s) could be seen by passerbys (you just couldn't here what was on the screen).

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Aaron Sisemore
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posted 08-01-2003 02:39 AM

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how exactly does a drive-in theater get away with show X-rated movies? I mean unless the theater is located out in the middle of nowhere, how does one prevent people (children) from being exposed to the content on the screen if they just happen to be just driving by?

3 words: LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION! [Smile]

At the Sonomarin D/I there was a freeway going right by the theatre (U.S. 101), but the screen was situated at a reeally odd angle- you could see an 'image' from the road, but it was so 'thin' and 'skewed' due to the geometry of the situation that it was difficult to make out too much. People used to drive along the access road and park and attempt to view the show thru the chain link fence, (we had AM radio sound at that time) but we usually sent someone to chase them off. Eventually the people that lived on the hill above the D/I lot decided to cut down the grove of trees that used to block the screen from beingseen from their property, and began to complain about the XXX movies that were being shown (nothing ever happened to shut the place down because of that stunt, the shows continued until the place was sold to the state for use as a flood control reservoir in 1989).

-Aaron

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John Pytlak
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posted 08-01-2003 08:08 AM

The Technology Council of the Motion Picture and Television Industry developed a high-gain "containment screen" that not only allowed a brighter picture, but limited viewing from anyone outside the drive-in. AFAIK the higher cost and maintenance issues limited its use:

http://www.driveinworkshop.com/answerman/boothqa.htm

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Barry Floyd
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posted 08-01-2003 08:51 AM

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how exactly does a drive-in theater get away with show X-rated movies?

At our place it's not possible. We have a running land covenant that says "as long as the property will be used for an outdoor motion picture theatre, no films with an MPAA rating of NC-17 or X will be allowed to be shown to the public, regardless of whether the screen may be seen from any other property."

I didn't really mind that restriction. We didn't have that intension when we built the place.

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Steve Kraus
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posted 08-01-2003 11:04 AM

How does a land convenent work? Who would enforce it? It certainly cannot be a matter of law--you can't give the MPAA the power of law. Does your covenent only address MPAA ratings or self-applied ones, too? Okay, the vast majority of porn movies were never rated by the MPAA. Not that you would ever have any interest in running them but depending on how the covenent is worded many things could slip by. How about when the self-applied rating is not X but XXX? Or if the MPAA ever decided to come out with an "A" rating for serious adult fare. I think a covenent like this is stupid.

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David Stambaugh
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posted 08-01-2003 06:51 PM

It's the "spirit" of the covenant that matters, not the "letter". [Wink]

Don't many theatre leases have similar restrictions in them (by way of the landlord)? Likewise, if your theatre is in a mall, I bet the mall's contract has something to say about this issue. This isn't exactly new...

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Jesse Skeen
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posted 08-01-2003 10:45 PM

The Westlane Drive-in in Davis on I-80, which was all-porn during its last years, lost a lot of its business to people parking on a back road where the screen could be seen without paying. You couldn't see the screen from the main freeway though. The Sacramento Six Drive-In on Highway 50 ran the NC-17 "Showgirls" though, and most of their screens can be seen from the freeway.
There was a drive-in running porn til 1989? Were they still putting out 35mm XXX movies that late?

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Steve Kraus
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posted 08-01-2003 11:59 PM

I'm not an attorney but I don't think a court is going to try to discern intent unless there is an ambiguity to settle. If someone has a covenent or lease that says "thou shalt not exhibit films that have been rated X or NC-17 by CARA/MPAA" and one runs a film of that nature that was not rated X or NC-17 by CARA/MPAA I doubt a court (who is always going to be the ultimate arbiter of these things) is going to say "oh that's what they meant." More likely they would say that if the drafter of the clause had intended it to mean all explicit depictions of sex they could easily have worded it that way. Case dismissed.

I would therefore presume that most of these clauses are, in fact, worded to cover the sort of loophole I am discussing.

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Aaron Sisemore
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posted 08-02-2003 02:57 AM

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There was a drive-in running porn til 1989? Were they still putting out 35mm XXX movies that late?

Yes, and yes.

I would assume that the majority of the 35mm prints were blown up from 16mm negs or video.

-Aaron

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Jesse Skeen
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posted 08-02-2003 01:28 PM

I'm still trying to find out what the very last porno movie released on 35mm was. There were a few released in Dolby Stereo, including Stiff Competition, If My Mother Only Knew, and I Like To Watch (the latter being available only in mono on laserdisc.)

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