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Author Topic: Movie Credit Roll Paul Linfesty Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1383 From: Bakersfield, CA, USA Registered: Nov 1999 posted 08-11-2003 11:39 PM                     quote: I could have sworn Paramount distributed it. How did they obtain the home video rights for all these years? United Artists had a direct investment of 7.5 million, which gave them U.S./Canadian theatrical distribution rights only. They ended up pumping much more money into the production, but in the form of a loan, which, in case the film bombed, UA could have ended up with all of American Zoetrope assets (though thought to be considerably less than the money loaned. Well, due to the strong business of the film, the loans were repaid. Zoetrope sold non-theatrical rights to Paramount. (there's some excellent first-hand information on this from UA Prexy at the time Steven Bach in his book "Final Cut: Dreams and Disaster in the Making of HEAVEN'S GATE".)  |  IP: Logged Michael Coate Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1904 From: Los Angeles, California Registered: Feb 2001 posted 08-12-2003 12:58 AM                     quote: one of my favorite is by John Conte and the end music he wrote for "The Right Stuff" quote: It was Bill Conte that wrote the music. Great Score Actually, it was Bill Conti. You got the "great score" part right.  |  IP: Logged Bill Gabel Film God Posts: 3873 From: Technicolor / Postworks NY, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 08-12-2003 02:41 PM                      |  IP: Logged Scott Jentsch Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1061 From: New Berlin, WI, USA Registered: Apr 2003 posted 08-13-2003 10:44 AM                        Paul G. Thompson wrote: quote: But I still show the credits in case some dilrod wants to know who supplied the toilets. I am one of those "dilrods" that watch the entire movie from beginning to end, including the credits. I'm also the dilrod who paid money to visit the theater and eat high-priced popcorn. Money which, if I have it right, pays the bills for most theaters. When it comes down to the theater staff and the patrons, I'm the one on the revenue side of the equation, and my desire to watch the credits should be respected. If the interest is in saving film stock, or saving time to squeeze in another showtime, then by all means feel free to hack off the 15 minutes of rolling stock (ads and trailers) that run before the film begins. In regards to printed programs accompanying the film, that would be kind of nice for certain films. While it would be trash for most films, it would be interesting for the select gems out there. And yes, the public exhibitions of Apocalypse Now Redux did have a printed program, I have one here somewhere. However, the IMDb fills the need for referencing most of this type of information. R. Andrew Diercks wrote: quote: I just see credits as cleaning time. I tell the staff if they are done bagging the house before the credits are done, they are doing well. This demonstrates a lack of respect for those paying customers who are still watching the film. No matter how quiet your cleaners are, they are still a distraction by moving through the theater around your customers. How good of a job can they do without the cleaning lights on? I attended SWAT last night, and the staff was courteous enough to wait until the movie was completely over before they started cleaning. I don't mind the lights coming up slightly to offer people the chance to leave safely, but full cleaning lights and a house full of cleaners should not be my final impression of a theater when I pay money to see a film. I can empathize with the desire of the staff to get people in and out as quickly as possible, but one should never forget that every single customer deserves respect. It is in every theater's best interest to deliver the best possible customer experience from the time they drive in the parking lot to the time they leave that same parking lot. Such attention to detail can and will differentiate your theater from the others in your competitive area. It will also give them another reason to come to your theater instead of Blockbuster.  |  IP: Logged Charles Everett Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1470 From: New Jersey Registered: May 2001 posted 08-13-2003 01:15 PM                     quote: If i went inot a theatre and watched a show and the credits were cut or not shown there would be one fast call to the distributor All About My Mother has a long, slow credits crawl. In 2000 -- on Oscar weekend -- the Montgomery Cinema in Rocky Hill NJ cut off that film 2/3 of the way through the end credits. Not only that, the Dolby Digital cut out 3 times during the show with no fallback to analog. I have not been back to that theater since. Sometimes it's not entirely the theater's fault. The AMC Empire in NYC played Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai the week the theater opened in 2000. AMC ran a circuited print that was missing the Artisan logo at the beginning plus all the credits at the end. I got passes when I complained to AMC about this.  |  IP: Logged Jesse Skeen Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1517 From: Sacramento, CA Registered: Aug 2000 posted 08-13-2003 01:49 PM                     "I don't mind the lights coming up slightly to offer people the chance to leave safely" As long as they don't have them come up by placing cue tape over the picture, causing a flash on the screen during the final dramatic fade-out!  |  IP: Logged Paul G. Thompson The Weenie Man Posts: 4718 From: Mount Vernon WA USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 08-13-2003 02:02 PM                     We bring our house lights up to half mast at credit roll start for safety of those who elect to exit before the very end. I think most theatres do that, too.  |  IP: Logged Jim Spohn Film Handler Posts: 95 From: Bakersfield, CA, USA Registered: Jan 2003 posted 08-14-2003 02:27 PM                     When someone pays to have a film run for them we run the film, not just the part we like!!...Jim  |  IP: Logged Matt Hale Expert Film Handler Posts: 123 From: Vancouver, Canada Registered: Dec 2002 posted 08-14-2003 06:51 PM                        In most cases credits are a contractual obligation, union or otherwise. In other cases I have seen, its the executive producer wanting to get his kid's names on screen... I always stay for credits, mostly as a professional courtesy to those who made the movie. Hopefully someone out there does the same for me. Having said that, I do find most credit rolls far too long and I wish more films adopted a 2 or 3 column format. Its just as easy to scan for a particular piece of information, and on all but the smallest screens print size is not an issue. One thing I find extremely insulting is when they list all the funding agencies and their logos before the people. I don't care how much money Pepsi Co. contributed, they got their due from the giant billboard in the background of scene 48, and all the other product placement. People devoted months (if not years) of their lives to making this movie and people always come before corporations/legal entities.  |  IP: Logged Charles Everett Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1470 From: New Jersey Registered: May 2001 posted 08-19-2003 06:01 PM                     On rare occasion you'll find a movie that does something out of the ordinary within the end credits. A League of Their Own cuts between the end credits and the "Old Timers' Ladies Day" game while you hear "This Used to Be My Playground" by Madonna on the soundtrack. This montage times out perfectly: The song ends cold when the Columbia logo comes up. I should have brought this up earlier but Gordon's post put me in rant mode.  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 08-31-2003 01:46 PM                        Hear, hear, to everyone who recognizes that the film should play to its completion, no matter what the urgency of the staff is to "get out early." I will not even let the cleaners stand in the alcove to wait for the credits to finish as it is distractive. My take on the long credit crawls is that in the old days, THE END card was it -- fast and dramatic -- get those curtains closed. But roadshows always had their exit music -- that was one of the things that made them special. For me, the credit crawl is kind of like exit or "walk out" music for the majority of patrons who don't sit through them; the end credits are a way of kind of allowing you to mimic roadshow protocol, except you don't close the curtains, so although it's no cigar, it's close. The only thing I close the dowser on is the ugly, soft focus, jitter-me-timbers, ridiculous MPAA rating at the END of the movie. HELLO....what exactly is THAT for? So people who have already SEEN the film can slap their own faces and say, "Gee, I don't want to see R rated films....and dagnabit, I just did!" It's stupid. And it's just a self-serving bit of beat-my-own-chest for the MPAA. The patrons know what the rating is BEFORE the come in to see the film, and if they haven't made the effort to check any of the places where the rating is posted, like on the 1 sheets, in the newspaper ads, how about staring them in the face when they look at the box office board, then they really aren't that much interested in knowing what the rating is in the first place, in which case putting it at the end of the credits is, as far as I am concerned, nothing but some nice extra leader to protect the print, not anything that goes on my screen. Besides, even the guys like us, who sit through the ENTIRE credits and force the cleaners to stay out of our isle, get up and leave before the rating. Frank  |  IP: Logged Bob Peticolas Film Handler Posts: 73 From: Mesilla, New Mexico Registered: Jan 2000 posted 08-31-2003 04:59 PM                        Horray for Frank!! 100% correct on the ratings band nonsense. bob  |  IP: Logged Carl Martin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1424 From: Oakland, CA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 09-01-2003 12:25 AM                        yeah, we time our dowser to shut right before that rating card. unfortunately, sometimes (rarely) the music will continue just a little bit longer, and that will get cut off as the non-sync switches on automatically. carl  |  IP: Logged Daniel Fuentz Expert Film Handler Posts: 230 From: Fresno, CA, USA Registered: Apr 2003 posted 09-02-2003 03:50 AM                     Just tonight, seeing a film (Freaky Friday) with my nephew at the Cinemark 8 in Hanford, Ca: As the credits start, the house lights stay off. I figure this is becuase there is extra material of the daughter playing with her band at her mom's wedding. No big deal, even though people are falling over themselves trying to leave in the dark. After this ends, and the credits over black start, some genius in the booth turns on the CLEANING LIGHTS. (The house lights, when had been dimmed during the film were OFF at this time) The patrons still in the theater were instantly blinded, and of course there wasn't even anyone in the auditorium waiting to clean! I mentioned this to the person at the snack bar (the only employee I could find in my half-blind condition) and he just acted as if he didn't know what I was talking about and finished talking to his friend... So, if you were in the booth at the Cinemark 8 today...  |  IP: Logged Ron Keillor Expert Film Handler Posts: 166 From: Vancouver, B.C. Canada Registered: Jul 2003 posted 09-02-2003 04:05 AM                     In Canada the MMPAA ratings are not valid, and need to be removed from prints in most if not all provinces. There is now even a Canadian edition of some 1-sheets that has the rating removed to eliminate messy cover-ups.  |  IP: Logged

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