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Thomas Procyk
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 - posted 12-17-2003 11:31 AM      Profile for Thomas Procyk   Email Thomas Procyk   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
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What's interesting to me is the marketing side of running a 3+ hour movie. You're only able to run around half the show starts you could with a "normal" show.
The best solution for a multiplex in this case would be to have your largest screens equipped for changeover. If you had 3 screens like this, you could have 3 showtimes starting a half hour or so apart. Just carry Reel 1 over to the next house when it's done!

Maybe that's why they decided against an intermission. They're afraid people would carry the first half over to the next screen? [Confused]

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Mike Blakesley
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I have a feeling the ONLY thing that's going to hurt attendance on this movie in the coming weeks is that running time with no intermission. I've already talked to a couple of people who have heard that it's "four hours long" and they're going to wait for the video so they can take bathroom breaks.

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David L Parlier
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I've already talked to a couple of people who have heard that it's "four hours long" and they're going to wait for the video so they can take bathroom breaks.

I am not sure if the running time alone is really going to hurt attendance in the upcoming weeks. I would thing the hard core fans of LOTR are going to be the patrons trying to avoid the bathroom at all costs. They are also the patrons that are not going to miss the movie on the big screen regardless of the length. Those just watching the movie should be able to miss 4 minutes of the movie to take a bathroom break and still be able to live with themselves. I think people just like to bitch no matter what it is. Besides I sure do see a lot of people going to bathroom even when the movie is only 90 minutes long. Then again I could be wrong.

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Steve Kraus
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OK, here's what you do. Two auditoria interlocked with enough accumulators to put about 6-8 minutes between them. Sell only the first house. No intermission in the show but anyone who feels the need can take a break at any time and then reseat themselves in the 2nd house where they will pick up pretty much right where they left off. Actually you could do this with any movie. It would recreate the TIVO experience at the movies. Double the admission price of course.

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Mike Williams
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How about just putting in enough accumulators to stagger the start times by 30 minutes. [thumbsup] Then you get two prints for the price of one!

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David Stambaugh
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12 of 14 shows today at Cinemark #235 are sold out as of now.

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Scott Norwood
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quote:
How about just putting in enough accumulators to stagger the start
times by 30 minutes

It's been done. Of course it doesn't really do much for the exhibitor since many distributors will request a lower (why?) per centage of the boxoffice gross for the second print. At least, I believe that to be the case. At the 6-plex, we almost never get two prints of the same title and, of course, it doesn't happen at singles, either.

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Travis Hubrig
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Jack Said:
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I could probably haul in a cart full of folding chairs, if I needed them. Why would the studio care? That's extra capacity for a given print.

The studio might not care, but there's a chance the fire marshall might...

I'm sure you weren't serious about doing that, but I have had customers ask us for folding chairs, or they wanted to sit on the floor, or stand in the back. Not on my watch!

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Rachel Craven
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We sold out 1 of the 2 screens we were showing it on last night. About 250 seats in the first theater, then sold about 150 seats in the second theater.

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Manny Knowles
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You're making me want to go visit my theatres to see for myself how opening day is playing out.

Maybe I'll just phone them.

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Jack Ondracek
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Re: folding chairs...
from Travis
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The studio might not care, but there's a chance the fire marshall might... I'm sure you weren't serious about doing that,
You're right... and I wasn't! [Smile]

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John Hawkinson
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Accumulators, Steve? I thought the correct solution for long delay was a loop cabinet or an endless loop platter [Smile] .

Much better to delay by an hour or two...

--jhawk

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Marc Jones
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Wouldn't interlocking possibly hurt the theatre's overall grosses, since you only have a house allowance for only the one screen/print.
Any one believe this will have legs like Titanic did, the run times are similar.

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John Hawkinson
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Well, I think the presumption is that non-ROTK screens are dark at midnight, if we're still talking about interlocking midnight shows.

--jhawk

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Steve Anderson
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Sold out the mid-night show, and we had a guy buy out the theater for the first two shows today.

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