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Author Topic: Our Spiderman Banner Has Gone Missing... What To Do? Dan Lyons Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 698 From: Seal Beach, CA Registered: Sep 2002 posted 01-11-2004 04:09 AM                     quote: People will steal anything to give to someone for sex in return. Thomas, I love that line!!!!!!!!!!! Danny  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 01-11-2004 08:37 AM                       The line I love is: "You can sell anything on God's green earth if a customer believes it's stolen." - George C. Scott, in THE FLIM-FLAM MAN (1967) ...and I always love Matthew Bailey's non sequiturs!  |  IP: Logged Chris Medley Expert Film Handler Posts: 180 From: McKinney, TX, USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 01-14-2004 05:25 PM                        Stuff like this got so bad at my theater that we had to lock the high risk stuff(ie LOTR) up in the safe....it truly is sad what people will do...by the way...does anyone know if it is actually "legal" to sell that stuff on e-bay. I just scare my staff by telling them that it's a major felony...plus i don't know what you all do with your posters or if you have to send them to sub-run theaters...but we give some out as incentives and as prizes for promo contests  |  IP: Logged Aaron Sisemore Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day! Posts: 3061 From: Rockwall TX USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 01-14-2004 09:55 PM                     quote: does anyone know if it is actually "legal" to sell that stuff [promotional materials] on e-bay. Yes, it is perfectly legal. -Aaron  |  IP: Logged Jeremy Fuentes Mmmm, Dr. Pepper! Posts: 1168 From: Corpus Christi, TX United States Registered: Jan 2004 posted 01-15-2004 06:18 AM                     As far as selling items on E-Bay, I have heard that some movie companies go on E-bay and do everything they can to track down the person selling the items and where they got them from. I don't think its legal to sell them, that is why they are all marked "For Promotional Use Only".  |  IP: Logged Aaron Sisemore Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day! Posts: 3061 From: Rockwall TX USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 01-15-2004 02:10 PM                     That's news to me. Then could you explain how the 'poster stores' in some malls (usually located within spitting range of a mall theatre, so its really obvious where they get their 'current' posters) are allowed to operate selling current (to include titles that haven't been released yet) and vintage posters, press kits, banners, t-shirts, etc? I know that press kits aren't usually an item that the studios license for retail sale. If the studios cared that much such stores would be closed down pronto. The only time any studios try to interrupt Ebay auctions is when 35mm features and trailers are sold there, and even that happens irregularly at best. -Aaron  |  IP: Logged Dustin Mitchell Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1865 From: Mondovi, WI, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 01-15-2004 02:21 PM                     Well I know the Suncoast in the mall we operate in recieves no posters from us, what they sell they acquire on their own. Just because the studios don't go after people selling posters on ebay doesn't make it legal. As far as I know posters remain the property of the film company and are provided to theatres for promotional use only, to be destroyed at the end of their use (it goes without saying no one does this). At best the posters would be owned by the theatre chain, not the employees selling them. Selling things you don't own isn't legal.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-15-2004 02:27 PM                        There are definitely some situations in which posters can be legally sold. For example, I once ordered a poster for the 1997 reissue of "The Graduate" directly from Strand Releasing. They sold it to me for $15 and it is now mine. There is no reason why I cannot legally sell it on ebay or elsewhere. Also, my college's film club regularly received large quantities of posters from Swank which they explicitly encouraged us to sell or give away. Again, perfectly legal. This was in the late '90s; I assume that they still do this. Whether legal or not (I don't know), it seems that no one except maybe George Lucas and the Disney lawyers cares about posters, banners, presskits, etc. that might be sold on Ebay, in poster shops, etc., after the initial release date of the film which they are promoting.  |  IP: Logged Mark J. Marshall Film God Posts: 3188 From: New Castle, DE, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 01-15-2004 02:40 PM                    Following Scott's example, does anyone know if theater chains pay large sums of money to the studios to provide them with promotional materials? If so, then I suppose they belong to the theater when they show up. If not, then since they say "Property of <insert studio name here>" then ...? I don't know who they belong to. Some studios probably encourage giving posters away to customers in conjunction with promotions as prizes and what not, but I imagine they frown on employees just taking them out of theater without so much as hanging them up to promote the film before it's released.  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-15-2004 02:50 PM                     I have seen some posters for Disney movies that have serial numbers on them. Either those numbers are used for "tracking" purposes or Disney knows the posters are being traded and serializes them for collecting purposes... No?  |  IP: Logged Dustin Mitchell Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1865 From: Mondovi, WI, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 01-15-2004 02:52 PM                     Scott: The difference between your example and people grabbing posters out of their theatres storage room and selling them ebay is that in both your examples the films legal distributor either sold you the poster, thus transfering ownership to you, or gave you permission to sell it and keep the proceeds. This is not the case with posters sent to first run theatres by distributors for promotional use. Mark: First run theatres do not pay a dime for any of the promotional materials they get. If they did then they could (and likely would) resell them. The most any theatre pays for is shipping, usually not even that. EDIT I just want to make clear that when I say selling 'posters' is illegal I mean selling posters that are provided free of charge to first run theatres for promotional use is illegal. Neither the employees who put them in poster cases or the theatres they work for own them. It is not legal to sell something you don't own. As part of their merchandising efforts distributors sell posters and other promotional items to retailers who in turn resell them. This is completely different from the above situation.  |  IP: Logged Jeremy Fuentes Mmmm, Dr. Pepper! Posts: 1168 From: Corpus Christi, TX United States Registered: Jan 2004 posted 01-16-2004 11:06 AM                     ARENT THE POSTERS THAT SELL IN STORES LIKE SUNCOAST DIFFERENT VERSIONS AND SIZES THAN THE ONES PROVIDED TO THE THEATERS? I KNOW THAT WE WERE GOING TO TRY AND SETUP A SECTION IN OUR LOBBY WHERE WE COULD SELL THE POSTERS AND STANDEES AND OTHER VARIOUS ITEMS, BUT WE WERE TOLD THAT WE WERE UNABLE TO DO SO. I HAVE HEARD OF THEATERS IN JAPAN THAT HAVE VENDING MACHINES THAT SELL T-SHIRTS THAT ARE SHRUNKEN LIKE THE ONES FOR "ONCE UPON A TIME IN MEXICO", BUT I THINK THOSE ARE DIFFERENT THAN THE PROMO ONES TOO.  |  IP: Logged Bill Gabel Film God Posts: 3873 From: Technicolor / Postworks NY, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 01-16-2004 11:49 AM                     During the days of National Screen Service Corporation. Which handled posters and trailers for the major studios. They had this printed at the bottom of their poster material. Property of National Screen Service Corporation Licenced for use only in connection with the exhibition of this picture at the theatre licensing this material. Licensee agrees not to trade, sell or give it away, or permit others to use it, nor shall licensee be entitled to a credit upon return of this material. This material either must be returned or destroyed immediately after use. Theatres would pay a licensing fee to NSS to use the materials in their theatres. During the early 80's, one sheets from NSS were around $3-4 dollars and trailers were $5-10.  |  IP: Logged Rachel Craven Madam Moderator Posts: 2190 From: Pensacola, FL Registered: Dec 2000 posted 01-16-2004 03:46 PM                     Jeremy, why are you yelling?  |  IP: Logged Jeremy Fuentes Mmmm, Dr. Pepper! Posts: 1168 From: Corpus Christi, TX United States Registered: Jan 2004 posted 01-17-2004 12:35 AM                     Sorry, I realized after I posted it that it was in all caps, don't worry it won't happen again. I don't really consider it yelling, just cuz its in all caps, but I take into consideration other peoples opinions, so I usually dont do that, but oops.  |  IP: Logged

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