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Author Topic: Our Spiderman Banner Has Gone Missing... What To Do? Dennis Benjamin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1445 From: Denton, MD Registered: Feb 2002 posted 01-17-2004 01:52 AM                        Jeremy - Suncoast sells the 27" by 40" posters that we have at our theatres. The only usual difference is the back of the poster. The ones we receive are usually double-sided and theirs are not. Although I have noticed as of late -that they have been selling double sided ones. Most of the time -the film companies only lose it when the products being sold are for a big film that has not come out yet. You can pretty much buy anything legally - it is the sellers that can be busted. (In some states that have weird laws where you can own a certain weapon -but you cannot sell it or you can have an copy of something -but when you go to sell it -that is when the law is broken.) The film companies should all follow New Line's example and sell thier stuff on thier web site and charge big bucks -because people will pay it.  |  IP: Logged Thomas Procyk Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1842 From: Royal Palm Beach, FL, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 01-17-2004 10:57 AM                     It's not illegal unless there's a law that says it is. If you want to get into technicalities that "the studio is only lending the poster to the theater" or "the poster remains property of the studio therefore you are selling stolen property" then you would have to present all the evidence and have a judge decide. Problem is, no one would ever take on a court case over a poster, which is why you've never heard of someone being convicted for it. Also, if the studio requests that the theater "destroy" the poster, by that clause in the "contract" between the studio and the theater, they are implying that after a given period of time they relinquish their ownership rights of the poster and it becomes "abandoned property." Should the theater NOT physically destroy the poster and just pile them in the dumpster or even place them in a trash can by the exit door, you're free to take not only the posters, but the leftover popcorn and soda cups in there, too. The Supreme Court ruled that garbage is public domain, and if someone wants to buy the garbage you found, then so be it! Those little notices printed all over the posters now are just as effective as printing CRAP code all over the print. If someone really wants it, they'll get it. Maybe if they wanted posters back so badly, they should include prepaid return labels with them like they USED to do with trailers... =TMP=  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-17-2004 12:46 PM                        quote: First run theatres do not pay a dime for any of the promotional materials they get. That's news to me. We are considered a first run theatre, although we don't play every movie on the break. We pay: $60 per year to Paramount $60 per year to Warner Bros. $5.00 per one-sheet to TES for Disney/Miramax $5.00 per one-sheet to TDS for New Line (unless they send automatically) Shipping charges on anything we order from TES (includes trailers) I always thought that the $60 per year charged by Paramount and Warner Bros were a "per screen" charge. True or not? The only studios where everything is free for us are Fox, Universal and Sony, and Sony is free only if materials are ordered through their website. Thankfully, we don't have to pay shipping on standees, mini-posters and other promo materials.  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 01-17-2004 06:53 PM                        Yeah, free is news to me too. As a chain theatre manager, Dustin, you'll never run into this since it will be handled by your company's film booker. Independent theatres will see the bill since their film booker will be sending it to them. Anyway... Mike, they are per screen fees. Some of the studios have a separate fee schedule for drive-in's since they usually use fewer posters than an indoor theatre on a per screen basis. Additionally, almost all poster stores sell reprinted posters, not original theatrical posters. You see theatre poster stores near theatres since it's proven that the location draws people interested in movies.  |  IP: Logged Aaron Sisemore Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day! Posts: 3061 From: Rockwall TX USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 01-18-2004 12:49 AM                     quote: Additionally, almost all poster stores sell reprinted posters, not original theatrical posters. The ones I have been to sell the real deal, no reprints (referring to 'current' posters, the 'vintage' ones are usually reprints or foreign release posters) -Aaron  |  IP: Logged Dustin Mitchell Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1865 From: Mondovi, WI, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 01-18-2004 12:57 AM                     The company I work for has instructed us to only order materials through the advertising department. If we order them on our own from TES/studios/whoever we get charged for them; this is apparantly not the case if the advertising department handles this stuff. Will most people be able to get away with selling a poster or two on ebay? Certainly, there is no way to know if the poster came from a theatre or from a poster store just by looking at the auction and therefore the studios are going to largely ignore it. Doesn't mean its 'legal'. Here's a thought, if it was 100% legal to sell promotional material why the hell don't theatre chains do it? Seems to me they could make a shitload of money selling off all the crap that gets automaticaly shipped to their theatres. Tons of posters never even get displayed. In the end it doesn't seem very ethical to be selling promotional materials for personal profit. If one is going to sell posters and banners why not donate the proceeds to charity (CMN, United Way, whatever).  |  IP: Logged Chris Medley Expert Film Handler Posts: 180 From: McKinney, TX, USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 01-18-2004 09:11 AM                        I have also noticed a couple of double-sided sets ending up in places like suncoast. But if I remember correctly on Stars Wars, Lucas Films was so anal that they wanted all their trailers returned or we could run the risk of not getting the next installment of the series...I know not all of them were sent back and we didn't get any theaters from Lucas Films.. so I guess it was just a scare tactic. Does anyone remember the Spiderman I poster and trailer were it showed Spiderman on the Twin Towers and the studio ordered a removal of all that and they sent out re-prints of the one-sheets and edited trailers? Did you guys have problems with those "going missing"?  |  IP: Logged Mark J. Marshall Film God Posts: 3188 From: New Castle, DE, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 01-18-2004 09:55 PM                    If the studio sends something to the theater for you to use to promote their upcoming film, and you just take it home with you without ever thinking twice about it, then in my opinion, that's wrong. In this case, the movie is something like six months out - even more reason to hold onto it for a while and use it. But if the studio tells you to get rid of it early, like they did with the Spiderman stuff, then in my opinion, it should be fair game, because you have no use for it in the theater anyway.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-18-2004 10:50 PM                        Regarding the Spider-Man/Twin Towers posters and trailers, I remember the Sony rep clearly saying (at the Great States convention): "We don't want'em back...just get'em down and get rid of them." He never specified how to get rid of them though!  |  IP: Logged

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