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Mike Spaeth
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Actually, Madstone opened in April 2003. Landmark did not buy their location from REG until August of 2003. So, Madstone was here first, however, most of the art product (at least the good art product) goes to Landmark or REG at their 4-screen art location.

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Ky Boyd
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Jeez, 3 companies duking it out in the art market in Atlanta??? Sounds like Atlanta is the new Dallas! But I will readily admit to know nothing about the geography of Atlanta as I've only ever been to the airport. But I will say that it certainly looks like Regal and Landmark do much better in securing art product when you compare their theatres to Madstone's.

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Mike Spaeth
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Make that 4 companies. Lefont Theaters is a local art-house chain with a single-screen and a twin (though the twin lately has played such titles as Shrek).

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Gordon McLeod
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Toronto has 6 companies (2 of them major circuits) battling it out for many of the art titles

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Mike Olpin
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I also renewed my membeship! I hope they don't go! The San Diego has one of the nicest floor staffs around.

quote: Joe Redifer
Mark, all the Madstones I have seen have had poor presentations, unless they came with decent equipment already like the Hazard.
Unfortuanatly, Madstone Hazard uses opaque splicing tape, and often times the prints look a little tattered on screen. 2 of the screens, as of my last visit, were still dirty.

I do enjoy the festivals there, Jon. I'm confident that the Hazard Center would continue to play host to these events, no mater who winds up taking them over.

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Joe Redifer
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Well yelling and screaming at the projectionist who uses the opaque tape probably won't do much good, since he (more than likely) isn't the brightest star in the sky. You can't complain to the management because they don't know about any of that stuff (though you could say that the clear tape is CHEAPER, which it is). I guess the next rung on the ladder would be to bitch at the dealers who sell the stuff. But they just go by the rule of supply and demand. So the ONLY thing to do is bitch at Bob Maar for making the stuff! Maybe I will delete his joke forum until he stops! [evil] [Smile]

EDIT: Bob has been removed from Neumade! That'll teach him! [Smile]

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Mike Olpin
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Just recieved the M*adstone M*embers Weekly eM*ail. Looks like its buisiness as usual. No sign of a sell of or closure this week.

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Jon Miller
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Glad you enjoy the film festivals hosted at the Madstone Hazard Center, Mike. It's always a fun and rewarding experience for all the staffs involved in putting on these festivals, even though it's not without occasional challenges behind the scenes to keep us on our toes.

Regarding opaque splicing tape use over there: one of the crew members with print makeup and breakdown responsibilities (not the chief projectionist) insisted on the stuff. Fortunately, there is Zebra available whenever I am in the booth for festivals, the chief projectionist knows I prefer Zebra, and I bring a personal supply "just in case". (I could just use clear tape as advocated recently, but Zebra is not a problem with Dolby Digital or SDDS tracks in a DTS house.)

Opaque tape or no, given a choice between the Madstone or one of the AMCs in the Mission Valley to see the same feature, I'd pick the 'plex closest to Highway 163. [Wink]

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Joe Redifer
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My question now would be "why is the person who isn't even in charge in the booth be allowed to choose the splicing tape? Why is he in the booth if he/she can't deal with the way it was?"

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Nate Lehrke
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Ky Boyd wrote:
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Madstone's previously mentioned own film Rhinoceros Eyes, which pulled in a whopping $650 in its first weekend. That don't pay the rent and since when are Shrek, Troy, and Van Helsing art films anyway? Landmark has real arthouse bookings. Madstone is just playing anything they can get their hands on and Landmarks leftovers. That ain't an arthouse. (I love Rentrak! Nothing like facts at a click of the mouse!)


How do you get that info from Rentrak? Is this a free service? How do you access it?

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Ky Boyd
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Nate,

Rentrak collects grosses from theatres all over the country just like EDI does. I have access to their site because my theatre reports to Rentrak. With the chains access is probably restricted GM's, DM's and higher. Visit www.rentrak.com for more info on Rentrak's products and services.

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Joe Redifer
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Rino Eyez made $650? Well it sounds like at least they'll break even! [Smile] Hey Nate, we need to get Kate to register so she can post a review. I think Madstone made their employees watch it some weekday at midnight. Didn't she say it, ummm, wasn't very good... at all?

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Nate Lehrke
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Joe, Kate’s not in the industry anymore, so she wouldn't be allowed to comment on the film. I thought she loved it and can’t wait for the extended edition DVD [Big Grin]

In case you all were wondering:
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a Madstone is a Hopi Indian term for a rock that, legend has it, can be used to remove the venom from a snakebite
Now, I heard a possible alternative meaning: Apparently when the owner's pitched the idea of an independent theatre that had a lounge & sold memberships, there friends asked "are they mad or just stoned?" [uhoh]

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Jennifer Pan
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They're still in business in my area. Looks like they're showing some mainstream flicks.

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Pravin Ratnam
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OK, it's official. Madstone is closed in Atlanta. Joe, you are no KD when it comes to predicting things. (though I wish you were as offbase as he normally is in this one case).

Goddamit! I had three unused passes(though two of them were part of the new membership). I guess I will have to ask my credit card company to reverse charges.

This sucks. North Atlanta sucks. I should have known something was up when Connie And Carla was still playing while other movies were phased out. Madstone got a lot of free press in the local paper. It did that part right. What it failed to do was reach the local neighborhood. Even when it played the same mainstream movies as the Regal a couple of miles away, residents I know seemed to go to the Regal because they weren't too aware of what was playing at the Madstone. So mixing in mainstream product didnt' give the movie house as big a boost as it would have liked.

Even though Madstone could have done some things better, it does suck for indie movie lovers in northern atlanta. I guess I will have to trek all the way to Landmark. I guess the suburbs are really as bland as American Beauty portrays them to be. Man, and this multiplex just upgraded their sound too.

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