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Author Topic: Nightmare Before Christmas in 3D Mike Schindler Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1039 From: Oak Park, IL, USA Registered: Jun 2002 posted 10-18-2006 06:06 PM                     quote: Mark Lensenmayer The Pixar short KNICK KNACK will be shown with this, according to the display ad in the NY Times. This short was originally made in 3-D. We'll have to see if this is the original version, or the "diminished" one shown with FINDING NEMO. It's the "diminished" version, which is too bad since the original version probably would've taken full advantage of what 3D has to offer.  |  IP: Logged Mark Lensenmayer Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1605 From: Upper Arlington, OH Registered: Sep 1999 posted 10-18-2006 06:35 PM                     I think NIGHTMARE BEFORE CHRISTMAS was a good choice for a 2-3D conversion because it is a stop motion film. First of all, you have a steady image to work with. (I don't think any go-motion techniques were used in this film.) Since each frame is actually a true still picture, there is no streaking or other movement artifacts. This makes it easier to pull an image out from the background to place it on a different point on the z (front-back) axis. Second, you are dealing with fairly simple images. Rarely in these films do you get scenes with large crowds. Even when there are crowds, they are in small enough groups to separate them from the backgrounds. Most of the time, you only have a character or two in the frame. Too much action is just too difficult with stop motion. And, again, it makes it easier to separate the images. Jerry Beck, an animation expert I respect, saw the film and liked it. (I highly recommend his blog Cartoon Brew. Lots of good info there.) I'm hoping this will compare with POLAR EXPRESS as a wonderful 3-D holiday experience. (Wonder if PE will ever get converted to Real-Disney-Dolby 3-D?)  |  IP: Logged Caleb Johnstone-Cowan Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 593 From: London, UK Registered: Mar 2006 posted 10-18-2006 09:29 PM                     quote: Frank Angel And how much more lightweight can these new "green" polarized glasses be than the cardboard or plastic polarized glasses of the 50s? I took about ten pairs away with me from Chicken Little 3D, they are green plastic, sturdier than cardboard but still light. A bit like free sunglasses in a kids magazine. The left lens seems to be more green than the right one (sorry for the simplicity) although this isn't obvious. They are good for the duration of the performance, guess that is what matters. However to say they are far better than the glasses of IMAX or ones of the 50's is pushing it.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 10-19-2006 12:10 AM                        If Christopher Duvall lets me in, I'll see this. I've never been to his theater but that is probably because I hate the Colorado Mills mall and their "mall tax" even though they claim it is not a mall tax. I hate these trendy "upscale" malls like it and Park Meadows. Now if they were full of zombies, that would be cool.  |  IP: Logged Mark J. Marshall Film God Posts: 3188 From: New Castle, DE, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 10-19-2006 08:13 AM                    That would be cool. What's a "mall tax?" Is that like McDonald's "Dine In" tax?  |  IP: Logged Christopher Duvall Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 500 From: Denver, CO Registered: Dec 1999 posted 10-19-2006 11:52 AM                     Come on down Joe...  |  IP: Logged Dan Lyons Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 698 From: Seal Beach, CA Registered: Sep 2002 posted 10-19-2006 03:40 PM                     So I still want to know why the nearest location showing this is 16 miles away from Disneyland. They show all kinds of DLP stuff at the theatres by Disneyworld, but to my knowledge, no DLP is shown at Downtown Disney in Anaheim. What gives? Someone reading this must work there or have friends there, EXPLAIN. Danny  |  IP: Logged Michael Coate Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1904 From: Los Angeles, California Registered: Feb 2001 posted 10-19-2006 04:02 PM                     Dan, One explanation: film distribution and equipment installation matters are not a science. Politics and weird decision-making get in the way! What's the big deal about Downtown Disney, anyway? Disney the movie company is not based in Anaheim; they're based in Burbank, where there will be several "Nightmare" engagements within a few miles. According to your profile, you reside (or work) in Seal Beach. If driving distance is the issue, why not simply see "Nightmare" at the Towne Center in Long Beach? That's a lot closer to you than Downtown Disney. Or is it you'd rather see the movie at an AMC??  |  IP: Logged Andrew McCrea Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 645 From: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada Registered: Nov 2000 posted 10-19-2006 11:58 PM                        Uh, I went to the AMC in Downtown Disney back in February. I'd been to a movie in the United States only once back when I was much younger. It was in Yuma, Arizona, and its long gone now. I thought it was a very nice theatre, good presentation, nice staff.. I really enjoyed it, especially since my movie was set in L.A. and I was in Anaheim and went to L.A. the next day. Besides being pastey white (which would have given away the fact that I was a tourist), the concesion girl was very nice to me when i sked if there was ketchup seasoning for the pocorn and she directed me to the condiment stand for hot dogs. I've never been to an AMC before and I actually thought this theatre did a great job (especially considering the bad rap they have here on this forum). One thing though: I found the admission to be quite high ($10 or something) but concessions to be low ($9 something or large corn/drink with free refills) compared to theatres in Winnipeg, Manitoba. We don't have any DLP theatres here, but rumours are going around that it wil hit IMAX (which I don't think is happening).  |  IP: Logged Michael Coate Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1904 From: Los Angeles, California Registered: Feb 2001 posted 10-26-2006 11:56 PM                     The 3-D re-issue has been out for a week now. This thread is dead...hasn't anyone gone to see the movie??!! (I've seen it. But then, no one seems to care about my opinion. I am, however, interested in what others have to say.)  |  IP: Logged Christopher Duvall Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 500 From: Denver, CO Registered: Dec 1999 posted 10-27-2006 01:54 AM                     I have seen it and it looked awesome. I am not the only one either. I sold out almost all shows this last weekend and had a decent turnout all week long.  |  IP: Logged Brian Michael Weidemann Expert cat molester Posts: 944 From: Costa Mesa, CA United States Registered: Feb 2004 posted 10-27-2006 02:53 AM                        I went to see it last week. I was never a fan of sitting through this movie before, but I took someone who wanted to see it, so I went. I was told beforehand from co-workers that the 3D was rather subtle, with nothing much jumping out at you. The trick, I realized, is to sit CLOSE to the screen. It's much more effective, in a small auditorium, which is where we have it. Things did jump out. Of course I'm biased by IMAX, but this presentation wasn't bad at all. The audience liked it and reacted well to the 3D. It must have been a lot of work, and a heck of a project, for ILM to convert this as well as they did, given the process I'm understanding them to have used.  |  IP: Logged Chad M Calpito Master Film Handler Posts: 435 From: San Diego, CA Registered: Apr 2006 posted 10-27-2006 02:42 PM                        I saw the movie on Saturday and I was impressed. Certainly much better seeing it in Digital 3-D than when I first saw it when the movie originally opened. The movie presentation was great.  |  IP: Logged Forrest Lee Film Handler Posts: 2 From: Northborough, Massachuetts, USA Registered: Oct 2006 posted 10-29-2006 08:57 PM                     I really wish my theater was getting it but we aren't set up for D cinema  |  IP: Logged Mark Lensenmayer Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1605 From: Upper Arlington, OH Registered: Sep 1999 posted 10-30-2006 09:08 PM                     (Hey, Rave Columbus...check out that right channel. There is some light dimmer noise leaking through...pretty noticeable. Changes pitch as lights go up and down, then goes away entirely when Movie Tunes cuts in. Thanks) OK, that out of the way, I have quite a bit to say about Nightmare 3D. What a joy to have a sense of wonder and amazement again. Watch the 10 Commandments, and see all of those REAL PEOPLE head across the desert. Not bits in a computer...REAL PEOPLE. Someone touched every frame of this film. Real hands moving real objects creating a real story and some real screen magic. HOW DID THEY DO THAT? has a much more complicated answer here then today's "They moved a mouse around". The 3-D image is clear and crisp, with a nice subtle sense of depth. Only a few gimmick shots, most shots give a very realistic effect. This must have taken a LOT of work! A couple of problems, though, of a very subtle nature. First, there is an occasional jump to the image, possibly caused by a burp in the processor. Something more interesting is noticeable "veil" that seems to sit in front of the screen in certain shots. Most obvious is when Jack is standing in front of the moon. It is very subtle, but it looks like the natural grain of the photographic image was somehow brought forward during the 3-D process. There are other scenes, but these are the most obvious. Not something everyone will notice, but something I haven't seen in a 3-D film before. Special note must be made of the sound. This is a very active track, with lots of "panning" and use of the surrounds. This presentation requires a very well tuned system. This is some of the sweetest sound I've ever heard in a theatre, especially the string sound. The music almost sounded live. I would have liked a bit more dynamic range (a little louder at times), but this is one great sounding picture. Not as powerful a 3-D experience as POLAR EXPRESS, but mighty good. Best non-Imax 3-D I've ever seen. And, its one sure way to keep people from pirating it in the theatre!  |  IP: Logged

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