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Bobby Henderson
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 - posted 12-15-2007 09:22 PM      Profile for Bobby Henderson   Email Bobby Henderson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
If I couldn't edit my posts I'd be much more militant about proof-reading for typos.

One of my father's professors back at Syracuse would give anyone an automatic "F" on any paper with a spelling error. It wouldn't be called a spelling error either; rather, it would be deemed an "error in fact." This professor also didn't stop with the "F" grade either. He would give students grades like "N-" "Q" and even go into double letters if there was enough errors in the paper. I think this professor's last name was Demarest. I remember hearing my father's complaints about what a Sadist that guy was.

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Aaron Mehocic
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 - posted 12-15-2007 10:26 PM      Profile for Aaron Mehocic   Email Aaron Mehocic   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
If I did that in my classes, I'd never teach again. Then again, I only require papers during the summer semester. Although I agree most college students are terrible at grammar and sentence construction - especially in their writing - that is just plain stupid.

Ah, tenure. [sleep]

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Scott Jentsch
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 - posted 12-17-2007 02:53 PM      Profile for Scott Jentsch   Author's Homepage   Email Scott Jentsch   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Getting back to the effectiveness of newspaper advertising, I think you need to determine who your potential audience is, and market to that audience using the most cost effective methods possible.

Newspaper advertising is expensive, but if it sells enough tickets and concessions to cover its costs, it may be worth it. But, if it's not as effective as other means, then you have to judge whether you have enough advertising money to throw at it in comparison to the others.

My guess is that if you educate your customers about your web site and your phone number, you may not need the newspaper advertising as much as you thought.

Running a coupon on each medium simultaneously would be a good way to test that out. You could also have some sort of tally sheet at the point of sale where the cashier quickly asks how they get their showtimes. It shouldn't take long to check a box and thank them for their answer.

In Milwaukee, Marcus Theatres (which has many Milwaukee Metro locations) does not advertise showtimes in the weekday Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, only the names, addresses, and numbers for each theater in a 3.5" x 3.5" ad. The Sunday ad is 3.5" x 13.5" with complete names, addresses, and showtimes.

Another way to look at it is, if you had an extra $3,000 a month ($36,000 a year!) to build your business, what could you do with it?

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Bill Enos
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 - posted 12-17-2007 07:51 PM      Profile for Bill Enos   Email Bill Enos   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Our audience if mostly younger. Eventually the ad will go. The last several weeks it runs there will be no movie name or show times. It will will say see our web site or call our movie line for what's playing and show times in hopes of conditioning them to do so.

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Scott Norwood
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Maybe get a second phone number and put that number (only) in the newspaper ad (and nowhere else). Count the number of calls to the "new" number and that's the number of people who saw the ad and cared enough to find out what you are showing. Of course, that doesn't tell you how many of those people actually become paying customers, but it would be an easy way to get some idea of how many potential customers see the ad.

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Bobby Henderson
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Coupons are an easy way to tell the difference. Print up one coupon for one specific snack bar item in the newspaper. Run a special coupon for something different via the website (and require a print out of that coupon for redemption). Do something unique yet again for radio, like some special buzzword or something. Don't carbon copy the same special between all the three mediums. I would mention TV, but hardly any movie theaters do any advertising on local TV stations anymore.

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James Westbrook
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Buena Vista was the last distributor to run local TV spots in Lubbock. (Is Buena Vista a bit behind the curve somehow?)

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Bill Enos
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The ad ended two months ago and there has been NO change in attendance and so far only one person who has complained about the lack of the ad. The $3000. was apparently wasted money.

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Mike Blakesley
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Sometimes I think I'll cancel our ad in the paper. On the rare occasion we have a mistake in it (like a showtime that's 15 minutes off or something) we literally never get anybody commenting on it.

I guess I keep it because:
1. This is a small town and the paper needs all the ads it can get
2. The editor is a good moviegoer (with family) as are a couple of the staff
3. It's only about $85 a month (weekly paper)
4. There are alot of "older" people around here who do look at the paper and see the ad.

I may think about decreasing the size though...I've been running a movie logo w/picture; I could drop the picture and save maybe $30 a month.

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Bill Enos
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Hits on the web site have quadrupled since the ad ended. Friday and Saturday hover around 2k+ hits. Weekdays around 800 to 1000. The phone movie line never stops.

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Ramin Hashemi
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I'm sorry if this is a repeat, as I did not read the entire post. But, if people pick up the paper to see the show times, copies are sold because of the theatre. Shouldn't the paper pay us, or at least make it fee?

wishful thinking

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James Westbrook
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I wonder why newspapers don't list the times gratis like they do television listings.

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John Hawkinson
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Some newspapers do. Often entitled "Weekend Movie Clock" and the like.

--jhawk

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Mike Blakesley
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...but do they do that for free if the theatre is not an advertiser?

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John Hawkinson
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I have no idea, but my experience is in major metropolitan dailies where generally theatres are not advertisers at all, they just appear in stack ads, which may or may not count depending on how you look at it.

--jhawk

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