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Author Topic: WALL-E vs. HANCOCK Brad Allen Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 688 From: Evansville, IN, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 06-06-2008 10:08 PM                     Hell Boy 2 won't mean squat in small towns just as Hell Boy didn't.  |  IP: Logged Justin Hamaker Film God Posts: 2253 From: Lakeport, CA USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 06-06-2008 10:21 PM                        quote: Ross Oba Hancock will do decent-to-well opening weekend but it will have to face Hellboy 2 in its second weekend and the almighty Dark Knight in its third, so basically it will need to have a huge opening weekend to even guarantee $200 million. Competition doesn't mean squat. There is no predefined size to the box office pie and if people want to come out for more than one movie, they will come out for more than one movie. Take a look at these weekend charts as evidence. http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?yr=2004&wknd=22a&p=.htm http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/?yr=2005&wknd=21a&p=.htm And I know there are other examples that are not a Memorial Day weekend. But the point is that if demand exists for multiple movies, more than one movie can have strong business one any given weekend.  |  IP: Logged Darryl Spicer Film God Posts: 3250 From: Lexington, KY, USA Registered: Dec 2000 posted 06-07-2008 01:08 AM                    OK, we got the official word today from our booking department that Hancock is PG-13 and will run 92 mins. Mike go with Wall-E. We had a trade screening the other day and everyone who watched it loved it. It's 97 mins plus a 5 min. short.  |  IP: Logged Justin Hamaker Film God Posts: 2253 From: Lakeport, CA USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 06-07-2008 02:08 AM                        Darryl, I'm loving those run times for Wall-E and Hancock. But that does mean we are going to be running our asses off almost non-stop that weekend.  |  IP: Logged Ben Goodman Film Handler Posts: 32 From: Danbury, CT Registered: Apr 2008 posted 06-12-2008 02:53 AM                     Upon further review of my previous reports, $140 mil is a little too optimistic... Dark Knight might get it, but Wall-E will probably get around $100-$110 mil. I still think it will break $100 mil opening weekend-- this is a weak summer and there really are no family movies. If Kung Fu Panda can make $60 mil opening weekend, there's space for family movies to flourish. With the Heath Ledger hype, I do think Dark Knight might be one of the top 5 openings of all time. $120 mil plus.  |  IP: Logged Shane Cooper Expert Film Handler Posts: 232 From: Little Rock, Arkansas Registered: Jun 2004 posted 06-29-2008 12:44 PM                     $100 million opening? Not so much... $62.5 million for WALL-E $51.1 million for Wanted I am guessing this was a lot closer than Disney would have expected. Wanted had the better per screen average at $16,100 vs. $15,600 for WALL-E. Who would have thunk it?  |  IP: Logged John Hawkinson Film God Posts: 2273 From: Cambridge, MA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 06-29-2008 12:47 PM                     Those are per-THEATER averages, not per-SCREEN averages. It's very hard to get reliable screen count (or print count) data, and, of course, you can conceivably argue that it doesn't matter... --jhawk  |  IP: Logged Ben Goodman Film Handler Posts: 32 From: Danbury, CT Registered: Apr 2008 posted 06-29-2008 09:55 PM                     I was certainly expecting a bigger opening, but I guess Pixar movies just don't gross as much as your average Shrek...  |  IP: Logged Galen Murphy-Fahlgren Master Film Handler Posts: 405 From: Canton, MI, USA Registered: Oct 2007 posted 06-29-2008 10:01 PM                     Lame. I even paid to see it the second time, you'll notice my $4 contribution to the cause when the final numbers come out. I probably won't pay to see it the next two times though.  |  IP: Logged Justin Hamaker Film God Posts: 2253 From: Lakeport, CA USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 06-30-2008 01:11 AM                        quote: Ben Goodman I was certainly expecting a bigger opening, but I guess Pixar movies just don't gross as much as your average Shrek... I'm sure there was some impact from the Mid-West flooding and the fires in Northern California. How much would be difficult to impossible to quantify. Plus, I think there are some people who are waiting for this coming week(end) when they have extra time off. I wouldn't worry too much about a "soft" opening. Word of mouth is very positive so that should help it have legs.  |  IP: Logged Lyle Romer Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1400 From: Davie, FL, USA Registered: May 2002 posted 06-30-2008 07:39 AM                     Even with the soft opening, it's a close race between Wall-E and Monsters, Inc for 3rd highest pixar opening. Finding Nemo and The Incredibles both opened around $70M. Pixar movies tend to make their money with legs and not the huge openings like Shrek. It'll be interesting to see how Wall-E ends up. Could Finding Nemo have been the peak grosser of Pixar similar to how The Lion King was the peak of modern era Disney animation?  |  IP: Logged Matt Fields Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 545 From: Ohio, United States Registered: Jun 2005 posted 06-30-2008 09:27 AM                     Prediction: Toy Story 3 will outgross Nemo, mostly because of higher ticket prices.  |  IP: Logged Ben Goodman Film Handler Posts: 32 From: Danbury, CT Registered: Apr 2008 posted 07-01-2008 02:19 PM                     What really was disappointing was how much Wanted overpowered Wall-E's impact on the concession stand. We didn't make nearly as much of a profit as expected-- Wanted is not your typical popcorn movie. Hopefully Hancock will be...  |  IP: Logged Michael Brown Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1522 From: Bradford, England Registered: May 2001 posted 07-01-2008 09:07 PM                     Did Kung Fu Panda already open in America? How did that do? In the UK this weekend it's Hancock vs Kung Fu Panda. We don't get Wall E for another 3 weeks.  |  IP: Logged John Hawkinson Film God Posts: 2273 From: Cambridge, MA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 07-01-2008 09:28 PM                     In general, I recommend www.boxofficemojo.com for US box office information. They do an excellent job of reporting daily and weekly gross actuals, number of theatre estimates in advance, weekend estimates of Friday box office, etc. All for free. Kung Fu Panda opened in the US on June 6th and has booked $181M of domestic (US) gross, and $102M of international gross. It booked $60M on its first weekend (domestic), $34M the next, then $22M and $12M. The first weekend it beat out You Don't Mess With The Zohan (opening at #2for $39M), the second weekend it was beat out by the Hulk (opening weekend), but it still beat out M. Night's The Happening (also its opening weekend). In the third weekend, Get Smart opened and beat it, as did the Hulk, but it still beat out The Happening as well as the newly-opening Love Guru. This weekend it was behind #1 Wall-E, #2 Wanted, and #3 Get Smart. --jhawk  |  IP: Logged

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