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Author Topic: Just saw Avatar trailer John Wilson Film God Posts: 5438 From: Sydney, Australia. Registered: Dec 1999 posted 08-21-2009 08:05 PM                     quote: Joe Redifer Granted, I haven't seen Piranha 2 The Spawning (anyone have a copy I could borrow?) I hear James Cameron has one. I ran the movie once...best leave it at that.  |  IP: Logged Julio Roberto Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 938 From: Madrid, Madrid, Spain Registered: Oct 2008 posted 08-21-2009 09:43 PM                    I just found this shot comparison of the teaser trailer with the movie Delgo funny: http://img.denihilation.com/delgovatar.html Avatar looks like it could be quite crappy, although it pbbly would end up being ok-to-good. But it did leave me wondering if, in the future, a REAL good movie is made that combines say 50% (realistic) animation with 50% non-animated stuff ... how would it be considered for Oscars? I mean, could it be best movie or best animated movie? How about special FX's if it's 51% animation? It draws an interesting question about the distinction of animated (say Beowulf) and non-animated (hmmm Transformers?) films in a future time when the line may blur so much as to make it almost impossible to classify. We all know that Spiderman, Batman, Matrix, whatever had some shots where the main characters were animated but could pass for the real thing. Imagine now that a film can be made in the future where some characters are fully animated and some fully real (don't know, like Roger Rabbit or Space Jam but with better cartoons). Is that an animated film? Is that a non-animated movie?  |  IP: Logged Lyle Romer Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1400 From: Davie, FL, USA Registered: May 2002 posted 08-21-2009 10:08 PM                     I'll have to watch the trailer in 3D but I just watched the online version and I wasn't impressed at all. Like Joe, I'm shocked that the CGI doesn't look any better than the fake crap that Lucas put on screen 10 years ago with the Star Wars prequels. The textures are all wrong, the lighting is all wrong and there were a few times where it looked like the foreground characters had a completely different color palatte. Kind of like the bacground was shot with washed out colors and the foreground had sharp colors. At the moment I'm not excited about this movie at all. And what's with the "From the Director of Titanic" line? Titanic was good but it did the insane business because every 13 - 17 year old girl in the country saw it 200 times. Couldn't they at least mention Terminator 2 also? I guess it's been so long since Cameron has done anything that they couldn't say "Directed by James Cameron". People must have already forgotten his name. Imagine a Spielberg film being advertised as "From the Director of Schindler's List".......  |  IP: Logged Claude S. Ayakawa Film God Posts: 2738 From: Waipahu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 08-22-2009 09:54 PM                        I did see the AVATA trailer today in 3-D and it did not look too impressive. One thing that annoys me about this movie is the fact that it wil be partially animated with CGI much like BEOWOLF was. During the fifties, all 3-D movies were live action with the exception of one or two animated short subjects from Disney. Why can't it be like that today? Why does almost every 3-D film that has been released or coming out has to be animated? I would love to see a quality live action 3-D film like DIAL M FOR MURDER, KISS ME KATE or HONDO in either Real D or Dolby 3-D I think if INGLORIOUS BASTARDS was released in 3-D instead of 2-D last Friday, I think it would do very well and I would go to a theatre to see it rather than wait for the movie to come out on Blu-Ray. -Claude  |  IP: Logged Julio Roberto Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 938 From: Madrid, Madrid, Spain Registered: Oct 2008 posted 08-22-2009 10:25 PM                    Avatar will be, according to Cameron's statements, about 90% CGI. It will contain life-action inserts in only about 15% of the shots, but only about 10% will be mostly-real-life with a few CGI enhancements. I think he said that only 2 or 3 shots were 100% unadulterated real-life in the whole film. Some shots may look like they have real-life inserted elements, but they may be fully computer generated through motion capture. In short: it'll be a cartoon. It was supposed to be a cartoon of such high quality that it almost looked real, but it seems it failed to even approach that high level of animation quality, not to mention other aspects like story (which sounds cheese), characters (add more cheese), set designs (only lacking pony rainbows), etc. And about why they don't come out with more real-life 3D films if 3-D is "oh so good" and doubles/triples/quadruples the benefits ... Hmmmm. Yeah, it makes you wonder if maybe people are not so inclined to sit through it with glasses for 2 hours after all on a regular basis.  |  IP: Logged Jonathan Althaus Master Film Handler Posts: 435 From: Bedford, TX Registered: Dec 2008 posted 08-22-2009 10:30 PM                     After watching the IMAX 3D footage, I would definitely be willing to sit thru 2.5 hrs of it.  |  IP: Logged Julio Roberto Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 938 From: Madrid, Madrid, Spain Registered: Oct 2008 posted 08-23-2009 12:24 AM                    Was that real Imax they showed it in or just 2K digital fakeMax? Not that it really matters, as the movie was shot in HD and rendered in 2K, but just curious.  |  IP: Logged Andy Bajew Expert Film Handler Posts: 136 From: Bellaire, Texas Registered: Jun 2009 posted 08-23-2009 07:28 PM                     I didn't see anyone make mention of this, but am I seriously the only person who thinks this looks like World of Warcraft? I mean I only played for about 45 seconds until some spider killed me and I logged off and uninstalled the game, but a few of my friends play and I swear to Bob that it looks exactly like World of Warcraft...? It looks like a great movie, but if I can't play the video game for 45 seconds, I don't know if I could sit through 46 seconds of the movie.  |  IP: Logged Justin Hamaker Film God Posts: 2253 From: Lakeport, CA USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 08-23-2009 08:01 PM                        I don't get the hype. I don't understand why people have been excited about this movie for several years and the trailer certainly didn't overwhelm me.  |  IP: Logged Andrew Bangs Expert Film Handler Posts: 148 From: Kerrville, Texas, United States Registered: Sep 2008 posted 08-24-2009 12:03 PM                        quote: Joe Elliott How many kiddies will come to it wondering why no one had a stupid arrow tattooed on their head? Joe. I don't know what preview you watched but the kid I saw did have an arrow on his head mind you it was not solid in color but it was there. maybe it was the HD blurring the image. All I can hope for in this is that they keep the same level of writing as they did with the animated series. It was one of the few animated series to come out in the last several years that had a good plot, character development, and action with several moral stories mixed in so the kids learned something as they watched. I have high hopes but tinsel town usually twists and contorts good stories till they are barely recognizable.  |  IP: Logged Julio Roberto Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 938 From: Madrid, Madrid, Spain Registered: Oct 2008 posted 08-24-2009 01:28 PM                    Holy crap. If even us here in this forum can get into the confusion between Cameron's Avatar and Shayamalan's Last Airbender .... I wonder if FOX should alter the CGI and just tatoo the arrow in front of the blue alien elfs just to play it safe ...  |  IP: Logged Andrew Bangs Expert Film Handler Posts: 148 From: Kerrville, Texas, United States Registered: Sep 2008 posted 08-24-2009 02:51 PM                        See now I was confused when you all were saying cameron... I had no Idea their was another avatar movie coming out. This is going to get sooooo confusing at the box office for our customers. YUCK! Joe My apologies!  |  IP: Logged John T. Hendrickson, Jr Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 889 From: Freehold, NJ, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 08-24-2009 03:01 PM                     No no no. Believe ALL THE HYPE!!! Run out and buy at least three new digital units and equip them with 3D. Do it immediately! Then file for Chapter 11 in 2010.  |  IP: Logged Demetris Thoupis Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1240 From: Aradippou, Larnaca, Cyprus Registered: Apr 2001 posted 08-24-2009 03:03 PM                     The footage they showedbat Cine Expo was Real D XL Scope. Why do most think that the release will be different?  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-24-2009 04:35 PM                        I just watched the trailer on the official Avatar site. It was completely underwhelming to me, but for the type of movie it is, I'd say it looks like it'll be good. The amazing thing to me is, nowhere in the trailer does the term "3D" come up. It isn't even presented as a 'card' at the end. Thumbs-up to the producers for having enough confidence that people might come to this movie even without knowing it's in 3D.  |  IP: Logged

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