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Topic: Chicago woman arrested for video recording in a theatre
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Bobby Henderson
"Ask me about Trajan."
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From: Lawton, OK, USA
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 12-04-2009 10:37 AM
quote: Scott Norwood
Joe--I would immediately _start_ visiting any theatre that confiscated cell phones before allowing anyone into the auditorium. I'm really, really sick of people who use them in a rude manner. (I am not a cell phone owner, so perhaps I am biased on this.)
I own a cell phone, but despite that I really have a strong hatred toward cell phone use in a movie theater.
Warren Theaters has a zero tolerance policy on cell phone use. They have posters in the lobby declaring this policy and repeat the warnings in their pre-show program on screen. They won't confiscate an offender's phone, but they will eject him from the theater. I wish every movie theater was operated in that manner.
quote: Julio Roberto
Unless the camera is fitted with a polarizing filter, which, mind you, real pirates would use.
Real pirates use DVD screener discs and often get the movie duped en masse or uploaded to the Internet before the movie arrives in commercial theaters.
How many video cameras out there can be fit with a linear polarizer or circular polarizer filter anyway? I'm guessing not many.
quote: Julio Roberto
Well, real pirates would use a 2D version of the film or use two cameras to record a 3D version in all its glory, but that's a different matter.
A bootlegger might be able to get a somewhat unghostly looking image if he taped the screen using one camera aimed at the proper angle and a CP filter dialed in just right. I strongly doubt he would get any sort of useful 3D image by using two cameras in the auditorium. The digital 3D setups are more complicated in how they project 3D than something more straight forward like a dual 15/70 IMAX 3D show.
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Galen Murphy-Fahlgren
Master Film Handler
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From: Canton, MI, USA
Registered: Oct 2007
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posted 12-04-2009 02:26 PM
She didn't intend to break the law, but she did. Should she be charged with a felony for being a rude idiot? Probably not, but neither is she innocent of wrongdoing. I've encountered people who appeared to have camera phones pointed at screens, and I told them it was illegal and if they continued, the police would be involved. Being ignorant in 2009 of these sorts of issues should itself be a crime.
And, Bill, your argument that the establishment is responsible is ludicrous and a red herring. The theater would have been responsible if they had caught someone camming the screen and not done something about it. Selling a ticket to someone who does something illegal in the auditorium does not transfer responsibility to the seller, and if you think it does, you are plain wrong.
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Julio Roberto
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 938
From: Madrid, Madrid, Spain
Registered: Oct 2008
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posted 12-04-2009 06:17 PM
quote: Bobby Henderson
How many video cameras out there can be fit with a linear polarizer or circular polarizer filter anyway? I'm guessing not many.
Video cameras that can be fitted with a polarizing filter? Most of them, of course. All of mine (about 7) have them. Most of the ones I know as well. Just order a polarizing filter (circular or linear, as needed) of the diameter of the filter thread (say 57mm) and have it delivered next day. Done. As cheap as $20 (more, if you want more quality, of course).
Not to mention you can just pop a filter from the 3D glasses and "tape it" in front of the camera. Vóila.
quote: Bobby Henderson
A bootlegger might be able to get a somewhat unghostly looking image if he taped the screen using one camera aimed at the proper angle and a CP filter dialed in just right.
Just to be sure, let me tell you that I speak of ACTUAL PROVEN EXPERIENCE besides theory. You can get a NO GHOST whatsoever (or similar to the ghosting level you get when you watch the film properly) by using a filter. You can even use the filter that comes in the 3D glasses, of course. As you said, the linear filter has to be rotated to the proper angle from the plate-retarder until the ghosting dissapears, but all circular filters for cameras allow for this. If you used the filter off a pair of 3D glasses, they are already pre-aligned.
quote: Bobby Henderson
I strongly doubt he would get any sort of useful 3D image by using two cameras in the auditorium. The digital 3D setups are more complicated in how they project 3D than something more straight forward like a dual 15/70 IMAX 3D show
About using 2 videocameras, each fitted with one filter from the 3D glasses i.e., it works, of course, equally as well. Again, I've tried and I can confirm. What makes you think that it's more "complex"? The fact that they flash 3 times per eye? It would be just the same as taping a 2D film (per camera) with a 3 blade shutter. No big deal, as long as the camera and film were both 24p/48i/72p.
Needless to say I did this under the current laws in my country, with no copyright infringement, and to atest with certainty that it's BS when the industry claims that 3D can not be "pirated" or "projected/used at home".
I can guarantee, beyond any reasonable doubts, that you can do both today w/o too much trouble. The worst problem is the low light levels from DLP projectors in 3D (after the polarizing filters) and that non-24p cameras, specially CMOS, flicker a bit (actual flicker, not ghosting, which you get "none") with the 72hz (per camera/eye) refresh due to the rolling shutter of the CMOS and total blanking interval of the DLP during the switch. This shouldn't happen on 24p CCD cameras, but I didn't have any 24p CCD camera to test, but did have a pair of 50i CCD and 24p CMOS.
So I hope this is the end of the debate about "with 3-D, you can't pirate off the screen or have 3D at home". That's not true. Even the cameras that I've used for years for home 3D recording, a pair of small PAL JVC GR-DVP7, would allow for "fine 3D pirating" inside a movie theater.
At best, you can say it is slightly more inconvenient for a pirate/home viewer to pirate this way in 3D. That's all. And as easy as popping out a filter from the 3D glasses and taping it in front of the pirate's camera lense if you are ok with a 2D version.
But the easiest method to pirate movies continues to be ... to download them from the internet. No need for cameras and theaters ... ![[uhoh]](graemlins/uhoh.gif)
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