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Author Topic: AMC buying most or all of Kerasotes complexes Aaron Mehocic Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 804 From: New Castle, PA, USA Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-23-2010 05:57 PM                     quote: Joe Redifer I have heard bizarre rumors that AMC likes their booth team or at least the booth manager to have college degrees. I can't fathom needing a college degree to work at any position in a movie theater (management included), especially given the pay rate. Agreed, but I have found those with degrees (in any theater position) to be more conscientious of their work and more personable in their approach. Those who did not attend college still had some good points, but generally felt unsure of their decisions - or down right terrified - to think outside the box. Others I've worked with over the years felt threatened by educated types and were always trying to prove themselves . . . not the best habits for working any projection booth. For the record: B.S. in ed., Youngstown State University, 1998  |  IP: Logged Sean McKinnon Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1712 From: Peabody Massachusetts Registered: Sep 2000 posted 01-24-2010 05:56 PM                        I dunno... I found that the college graduates with no prior theatre experience not only did not last but did not care about the business, or work as hard as the "uneducated" managers with a theatre background. When I was a manager I was not "above" jumping in to sell popcorn, tickets, or clean theatres, and bathrooms most of the college graduates I worked with felt they were. Just my $0.02 based on my personal experience. (I am sure there are many many great and hard working college educated managers out there)  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 01-24-2010 06:52 PM                        I'm sure mileage varies on both sides of the fence, but if you are working at a movie theater and you have a college degree, something is clearly wrong. Either you can't find a good job or you can't hold one. Of course, maybe you are just doing the theater part-time (which is cool). Why spend all that money on a degree just to work at a theater full time? College degree holders probably won't last long at a theater since they will be busy trying to find a real job. Movie theaters just don't pay enough to justify earning a degree to work at one, no matter what level of employee you are.  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 01-24-2010 08:00 PM                     Or maybe they have a college degree and are doing this on the side in addition to being in grad-school? Maybe like myself? Sure, I could've gotten a regular full-time job with my degree but combining that with trying to do full-time classes just would destroy me. edit: Also, I've worked with plenty of college grads who had no problem keeping jobs... It's just that there was this thing called the dot-com bubble. All the small internet startups failed and laid people off and then the larger companies started cutting people. So in some of the tech-saturated areas, lots of people with degrees were out of jobs and applying for a smaller pool of tech jobs.  |  IP: Logged Martin McCaffery Film God Posts: 2481 From: Montgomery, AL Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-24-2010 08:55 PM                        quote: Joe Redifer College degree holders probably won't last long at a theater since they will be busy trying to find a real job. Hell, I worked my way through college as a projectionist, and kept doing it for about 6 years after getting my degree. I've been running the Capri as the only full time employee for almost 25 years. My degree was in Journalism, so I would have just traded one dying business for another  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 01-24-2010 09:34 PM                        OK so maybe a lot of people have degrees, but they are now kind of useless. Let's all go get a degree in "art". Anyway, college was a lot cheaper 25 years ago, waddunt it?  |  IP: Logged Paul Mayer Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under! Posts: 3836 From: Albuquerque, NM Registered: Feb 2000 posted 01-25-2010 12:18 AM                        Yes. In Cali up until Prop 13 was approved in 1978 any Cal State school was free if you were a resident. By 1985 when I went to CSULA the tuition was only about $13/semester credit. Still pretty cheap! What absolutely sucks about school prices today is the cost of textbooks. I know I'd appreciate at least a kiss or a reach around while I'm getting reamed. And to think I want to go back now and do a graduate program. I guess I'll be using money from my next life to pay for that! Might as well - I'm not working (I'm one of those unemployable grads that Joe mentioned).  |  IP: Logged Christopher Crouch Expert Film Handler Posts: 128 From: Holywood, ca, usa Registered: May 2006 posted 01-27-2010 10:47 AM                  As for the whole degree and working at a theatre: I hold a master's degree and left the industry to "utilize" my degrees for a time. However, I quickly discovered that I not only missed the theatre business, but hated more traditional work environments/schedules. Sure, I made more money outside of the industry, but that proved to be less of a factor in my overall well being than I had anticipated. I don't feel I wasted my degrees through returning to the industry either, as I always viewed my education in more of a personal growth/experience fashion, than career precursor. As for AMC's degree preference. That original intent was to formalize more of a professional business culture. They also rolled out a lot of in-house education programs and "corporate culture" models around the same time the degree ideal emerged. Basically, there was a move to model the company more after "big business" than traditional cinema. I'm not sure how much of this "professional business culture" remains as their goal today, but that was the general idea behind it back when I worked for them.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 01-27-2010 11:43 AM                        If they want to model themselves after big business, they should pay like big business.  |  IP: Logged Paul Mayer Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under! Posts: 3836 From: Albuquerque, NM Registered: Feb 2000 posted 01-27-2010 12:52 PM                        They do Joe. Like Walmart, like McDonald's, like...  |  IP: Logged Paul J. Neuhaus Expert Film Handler Posts: 126 From: Iraq.. Again! Registered: Jun 2005 posted 01-27-2010 01:14 PM                     quote: Joe Redifer OK so maybe a lot of people have degrees, but they are now kind of useless. Let's all go get a degree in "art". off the subject but some degrees are useless everywhere: I've met allot of LT's and Captains over the years that are afraid to get out of the Marine Corps because they have Art or History degrees that got them their commission but don't mean snot in the real world!!  |  IP: Logged Richard Hamilton Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1341 From: Evansville, Indiana Registered: Jan 2000 posted 01-27-2010 01:57 PM                     Best of luck to Dean and Tony. I was their technical coordinator back when they were in Springfield. Good guys to work with, and good friends. My only gripe was the involvement with LJ.  |  IP: Logged Christopher Crouch Expert Film Handler Posts: 128 From: Holywood, ca, usa Registered: May 2006 posted 01-27-2010 06:19 PM                  quote: Joe Redifer If they want to model themselves after big business, they should pay like big business. Funny enough, that was one "traditional cinema" feature they weren't as anxious to abandon. I guess some old habits are just too hard to break  |  IP: Logged Sean McKinnon Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1712 From: Peabody Massachusetts Registered: Sep 2000 posted 01-27-2010 07:35 PM                        I dunno Joe... When I was with Loews a GM at a busy large complex could earn close to or in a few cases above $100,000.00 a year. That's not chump change.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 01-27-2010 07:49 PM                        Also, you are in New York. $100,000 a year there is like 40K a year everywhere else.  |  IP: Logged

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