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Author Topic: The presentations in Walt Disney World - slipping a bit? Robert LaValley Expert Film Handler Posts: 104 From: Tampa, FL Registered: May 2007 posted 04-12-2011 12:43 AM                     quote: Mark J. Marshall The movie at the end of The Great Movie Ride - How can that be film? It's film as of 2007. They would periodically rotate out that "feature" for a newly compiled one.  |  IP: Logged Sam King Expert Film Handler Posts: 120 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Oct 2006 posted 04-24-2011 01:47 PM                     ALl of Disneyland here in CA is DIGITAL, EXCEPT for Soarin' (IMAX HD) and Captain EO (original 'restored' dual 5 perf 70mm. Fantasmic (Former 5 perf 70mm x 3), Muppets, Bugs have all been converted. Muppets and Bugs are both dual DLP units. Disney in CA is very much in bed with Chritie and the resort is littered with CP2000's, some in fixed locations (like Muppets and Bugs) and some for various events (The Pirates 4 "sneak peak," Glow Fest projection wall, etc). I have heard rumors that FL has a stronger projectionists union than SoCal and that may be the reason there have really been do digital conversions there. The most fun will be when they do the Pirates 4 premiere on the island in 3D with the existing 100 foot wide white screen. Can someone say 'xPand using 6 projectors'?  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 04-24-2011 06:15 PM                     quote: Sam King I have heard rumors that FL has a stronger projectionists union than SoCal and that may be the reason there have really been do digital conversions there. Might also have to do with Christie's offices being a mere 20 minutes drive from Disneyland.  |  IP: Logged Geoff Jones Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 579 From: Broomfield, CO, USA Registered: Feb 2006 posted 04-24-2011 09:28 PM                        I've got plans to visit WDW in a few weeks. I've been using the "Unofficial Guide" with the "touring plans" to plan my trip... but if anyone has any particular advice, I'd love to hear it. I'll have 2 girls (3 & 7).  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 04-24-2011 09:47 PM                        Well....this time of year you probably don't need the touring plans, unless it happens to be very crowded for some reason. But, right after Easter is not likely to be too bad. The Unofficial Guide is my favorite WDW book. There's more good stuff in that book than any 3 or 4 other WDW books. With kids that age, you're going to be spending a lot of time in Fantasyland. A lot of time. Here's a word of advice to save you $300 or so: DO NOT go anywhere near the "Bibbidi Bobbidi Boutique!" My other advice to you is, if you're staying on-property or nearby, start your days fairly early but plan to go back to the hotel mid-day for a nap or a swim -- anything is OK as long as it's something relaxing. (2 or 3 hours or so.) Then come back to the park for the evening. Your kids will be happier and so will you. And one more thing: Please don't be one of the F#%$ING IDIOTS who ruin the indoor attractions with their stupid flash photography. (Being a film-techer, I know you will have the good taste to heed this!)  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 04-24-2011 11:15 PM                     My mom and I went to Disneyland (in California) about a year ago and saw "Honey I Shrunk the Audience" -- underlit and one "eye" had print damage -- very disappointing considering what one expects of a Disney theme park. I remember not liking the "Hall of Presidents" in Orlando, but I did get to see a revival of "Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln" (again, at Disneyland) and THAT was cool. Speaking of disappointing shows at places that used to have high standards -- I went to see "HUBBLE 3D" at the IMAX in Indianapolis and was SHOCKED to see dirt on the print. Even more horrifying was how it lingered on-screen, trapped between the film and (I guess) a glass plate. The poor thing struggled to break free. In the end, the plight of that poor, helpless little piece of lint was more compelling and memorable than the movie (and my date).  |  IP: Logged Danny Yancey Film Handler Posts: 9 From: Melbourne Fla. US Registered: Nov 2009 posted 05-16-2011 10:37 AM                     I installed the equipment in Muppets 3D and it is a 2 70mm proj with a Rentex lamphouse with 7k lamps. They use full frame with no sound track at 30 fps. using a Disney simplified controller. The projectors at the Studio all use this type of controller, which uses simplex time code to sync at i/100 of a frame. The wall panels are 6kw Pani projectors with two slides 8x8. Searchlights (flash light effect)are Intellabeams,and the waldo effect is 5k pani incandescent rotating artwork disc. What has been done to the show is they did away with the projectionist(when I worked there was only 4). The GMR pre show is a 35mm and has sound on film, it also gets updated but not often, the sound is digital on a chip in recordable sound unit mounted in the projector base. Finale is the last screen on the ride is a 70mm 30 fps with a 7k lamp also full aperture, only pre show has a sound track All sound in every show is processed in one room of the rides. It use to be on 360 cards but has been changed to alcorn Mc Bride systems, Epcot projectors have been changed over to this system and the controllers changed to Simplified controllers from the 4" tape units at central base. They used a NPL controller designed by Disney till 2000. I was a projectionist from 1982 till I retired in 2005 and we belonged to the IBEW electrical union and our contract was a maintenance contract with a special pay scale according to your job title, (area Projectionist)Proj Tech. They are converting over to digital and doing away with the projectionist by absorbing them into the area electrical departments ( show maintenance).  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-16-2011 12:49 PM                        Great picture, thanks for posting. I really enjoy the behind-the-scenes stuff from Disney. (We took their steam trains tour...highly recommended.) I know I'm in the minority but I hate that Muppets show. Have seen it twice -- the first time I hated it, the second time was to make sure I just wasn't in the right mood the first time. I hated it the second time, too. I don't know why; the Muppets just aren't my cup-o-tea, I guess.  |  IP: Logged Mark J. Marshall Film God Posts: 3188 From: New Castle, DE, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 05-16-2011 01:00 PM                    That is a great picture, thank you for posting it! And thank you for the information. Great stuff!  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 05-16-2011 01:44 PM                        Danny; I trust you won't get in trouble with the Mouse since you are retired. It used to be top secret in technical areas. Louis  |  IP: Logged Joseph L. Kleiman Master Film Handler Posts: 380 From: Sacramento, CA Registered: Apr 2005 posted 05-16-2011 05:31 PM                     I've been told by a couple of the IMAX techs that Soarin' is actually an SR projector at 24fps, but have never been able to confirm this. Only 48fps dome projector that IMAX installed was for Race for Atlantis, which was 3D Solido on top of that. As for MuppetVision, the California Disaster version was switched to digital projection last year.  |  IP: Logged Jean-Marc Toussaint Film Handler Posts: 60 From: Paris, France Registered: May 2008 posted 05-17-2011 10:29 AM                        Thanks for the picture, Danny. I went backstage at WDW a few years ago and noticed that endless loop of film system was also used on their motion-based attractions (namely Star Tours and Body Wars). The film was looped at the back of the simulator cabin and ran through a projector that was under it. That was quite impressive to see the whole contraption in use. Body Wars closed in 2007 but Star Tours is now all Digital 3D.  |  IP: Logged Geoff Jones Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 579 From: Broomfield, CO, USA Registered: Feb 2006 posted 05-29-2011 08:28 PM                        Mark, thank you for complaining about the focus in Micky's Philharmagic - they seem to have listened and it was in focus for me! I saw it 3 times. I'm a hater of 3D features, but for short theme-park stuff like that, it's a blast. The only really bad presentation I had was at Ellen's Energy Adventure (Epcot). One of the 4 projectors in the first room was badly mis-colored/ out of sync with the rest. That must have been digital, right? But then later in a different room I vaguely remember some registration/ jitter issues, which I assume was a film issue. I felt like there was a mix of film and digital throughout the parks, and it all pretty much "worked" for me, for what it's worth. And Rockin' Roller Coaster is their best ride!  |  IP: Logged Danny Yancey Film Handler Posts: 9 From: Melbourne Fla. US Registered: Nov 2009 posted 06-01-2011 07:57 PM                     RRcoaster preshow projection is a 70mm running at 60 fps with a rear projection screen. Built by Iwerks, using a Iweks controller running at 30 frames. the projector has a double pin cam in the intermitten and a straight shaft star. framing is done by rotating the sprocket.  |  IP: Logged Darryl Spicer Film God Posts: 3250 From: Lexington, KY, USA Registered: Dec 2000 posted 06-01-2011 10:07 PM                    Well, I see Balantyne projector and soundhead shells and base.  |  IP: Logged

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