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Author Topic: Picketing Mitchell Dvoskin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1869 From: West Milford, NJ, USA Registered: Jan 2001 posted 05-24-2011 10:34 AM                     Being a projectionist as a career is long gone. Picketing is a waste of your time, the public DOES NOT CARE, most will ignore you. Just as employers sell their goods and services, we as employees are selling our services. If many people are willing to do a job for less money, then sooner or later they will be. Trying to maintain a job that is no longer needed by attempting to hurt a companies business is not a sustainable employment model. Move on, be happy.  |  IP: Logged Jonathan Smith Expert Film Handler Posts: 201 From: Youngstown, OH Registered: Jan 2010 posted 05-24-2011 11:01 AM                     This is all about HURTING Cinemark at that theatre, helping the two fair wage theatres nearby (Union, and non-union) and getting some of those little turds fired for poor sales. I'd estimate I already turned away 100 cars in two days, by myself. And that's with TMI signs. I'm making new ones now :-) Then I will be back. Tomorrow I am starting up with teh 16 hour days of picketing every day except when I absolutely have to be in the office. It's like Star Trek III, but instead of the ship being "run by computer" my business is "run by crackberry" :-D Oh, so wehn the cops showed up Sunday night (four of them lights lit up, plus a pair f all security trucks), I say "Hey guys, IDK if they are doing this intentionally or not, but tell mallies thanks for the free LIGHT SHOW :-) Then we spent 10 min. BSing about fair wage, the Fraternal order of Police the International Association of Theatrical and Stage Employes, and what happened to police, coal miners, firemen, projectioniss, and autoworkers BEFORE Unions. Funny how projection booths are going back to being unairconditioned at night, reminiscent very much so of the early days of hand-cranked nitrate projection. Hot stuffy highly flammable environments are on their way back. Unbelievable that my chapter of IATSE would let this basic grievance, from teh days of old, slip by unprotested at our AMCs. I'd had to work topless at leas a couiple times last summer. White shirt and tie is more my style than Patrick Swayze ;-)  |  IP: Logged Bill Enos Film God Posts: 2081 From: Richmond, Virginia, USA Registered: Apr 2000 posted 05-24-2011 11:50 AM                     Better be careful, if they decide that you are hurting their business, they can, will, and should sue you for the damages. The cars you think you are turning away are probably just using another entrance so they won't have to deal with you. Give it up.  |  IP: Logged Jonathan Smith Expert Film Handler Posts: 201 From: Youngstown, OH Registered: Jan 2010 posted 05-24-2011 12:33 PM                     THey can get fucked. All I am doing is stating the truth. And I can and will hurt their business. People have a right to know the SHIT conditions those cocksuckers in their unfinished bgooth still pay the minimum wage poor souls working there. I have been picketing two half days now. 29 FULL days remaining, 16 hour days.  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 05-24-2011 12:44 PM                     Are you picketing on their property or at the entrance to it? If so, that's why you're getting the cops called on you.  |  IP: Logged Jonathan Smith Expert Film Handler Posts: 201 From: Youngstown, OH Registered: Jan 2010 posted 05-24-2011 12:47 PM                     THey can get fucked. All I am doing is stating the truth. And I can and will hurt their business. People have a right to know the SHIT conditions those cocksuckers in their unfinished booth still pay the minimum wage poor souls working there. I have been picketing two half days now. 29 FULL days remaining, 16 hour days. Just like Happy Gilmore getting in shape for hockey season, I am getting in shape for feature film production season ! @Chris: No, out on the sidewalk in front of hte mall main entrance. I WQAS picketing inside the mall Easter Sunday, thought it'd be safe, unfortunately I'm pretty sure a vagina with 3 kids called the cops on me thinking I was passing out movie ticket coupons or Jehovah's witness papers. Womoen who can't be bothered to read the fucking sign and pay attention drive me NUTS! I have more stories to tell, after 100PM. Now I alm on my way back with new signs freshly spraypainted, a 16mm movie camera witha 1200 foot magazine (not a prop!) and righteous anger. I'm going to drive thsoe money changers the fuck out of my temple (35mm projection room)!  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 05-24-2011 01:12 PM                     If this thread is just going to be "these guys are cocksuckers" can someone please lock this? quote: Jonathan Smith I WQAS picketing inside the mall Easter Sunday, thought it'd be safe Why would you think that? The mall is private property and they are well within their rights to have you removed from said property.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 05-24-2011 01:19 PM                     Jonathan, Seriously, all you are doing is busting your ass trying to make them look bad. Sure maybe a handful of their customers care, but better than 99% of them DON'T. You are essentially working for free, you aren't even making a dent in Cinemark's profit at that theater, and everyone at Cinemark is laughing at you because at this point, you are only hurting yourself. That picketing time would be better spent finding another job. You know what is happening with the digital conversions. Even if you DID manage to somehow win this battle, I can GUARANTEE you that they would be so annoyed at you they would IMMEDIATELY order the next batch of digital projectors to be deployed to your location and you would be out of a job 2 weeks later. I get that you are angry and were mistreated, but this is reality speaking. Go take care of yourself with another job. Don't let them get the best of you.  |  IP: Logged Rick Raskin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1100 From: Manassas Virginia Registered: Jan 2003 posted 05-24-2011 01:26 PM                     I feel your pain Jonathan but you'd be wise to take it down a notch. You have put yourself in a position for a lawsuit for libel against Cinemark. Its one thing to picket a location in a peaceful non-violent way, but to issue inflammatory statements such as: quote: Jonathan Smith This is all about HURTING Cinemark at that theatre, helping the two fair wage theatres nearby (Union, and non-union) and getting some of those little turds fired for poor sales. leaves little doubt that you are putting yourself at risk. My advice --- Give it up, move on and let Cinemark run their business as they see fit. You have nothing to gain there and you are doing yourself more harm than good.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-24-2011 01:39 PM                        And Jonathan, hopefully you're not using the kind of language in your communication with people that you're using in this thread. It just makes you look juvenile.  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 05-24-2011 01:52 PM                     quote: Brad Miller I can GUARANTEE you that they would be so annoyed at you they would IMMEDIATELY order the next batch of digital projectors to be deployed to your location and you would be out of a job 2 weeks later. Or at the very least they'd look for any small (albeit legitimate) reason to fire you.  |  IP: Logged Mitchell Dvoskin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1869 From: West Milford, NJ, USA Registered: Jan 2001 posted 05-24-2011 02:08 PM                     quote: Jonathan Smith I did quit the job. The booth is non-union. Let's see, you are not an employee, and this is not a unionization effort. You have publicly stated that your goal in to hurt Cinemark. Since you are not covered by any labor law, if you annoy them enough their lawyers are going to eventually crush you. If you are unhappy now, wait until you are spending your days in court and your money on lawyers. Once they get a judgement, they can seize anything you own at their leisure.  |  IP: Logged Jonathan Smith Expert Film Handler Posts: 201 From: Youngstown, OH Registered: Jan 2010 posted 05-24-2011 02:16 PM                     THey DID fire me, after I failed to Unionize their booth. And, I am young enough that calling me a juvenile isn't an insult, more a statement of fact :-P But no, I don't have any signs with profanity on them, although someone who STOPPED to talk to me last night said "Fuck Cinemark!" when I told them of their treatment of employes (trad. sp.). I was tempted to make a "CUCK FINEMARK" sign, for kicks, but decided against it. Libel is making statements that are damaging and untrue. No problem here guys! I couldn't make the bullshit up if I wanted to! Brad, at my b usiness, I rate my time at at least $20 per hour (billing double that sinc ea lot of time working is done to FIND work). So 16x30 = 480 x 20 = $9.600 of picketing. Beauty of owning your own business, gents, and a blackberry and a mailorder photofinishing outfit is that you don't have to keep regular hours :-) No doubt, this is a strain on my family and friends. I appreciate all of them for putting up with me, but the old song goes "You Always Hurt the Ones You Love" for a reason A city of 45,000 That means I can change the minds of 450 people. I estimate though I've already hit 100 so I am aiming for 10% of the populace educated. Rush hour in the morning and evening is a great time to hit up the junction nearest the mall and interstate. But, have no fear folks, I am multitasking like a secretary while I am getting my picket on!  |  IP: Logged Adam Martin I'm not even gonna point out the irony. Posts: 3686 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Nov 2000 posted 05-24-2011 02:26 PM                     450 is only 1% of 45,000.  |  IP: Logged Martin McCaffery Film God Posts: 2481 From: Montgomery, AL Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-24-2011 02:35 PM                        quote: Jonathan Smith THey DID fire me, after I failed to Unionize their booth. Have you filed an NLRB complaint. It's unlikely to get you anything, but it will be an annoyance to Cinemark.  |  IP: Logged

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