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Topic: Picketing
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Martin McCaffery
Film God
Posts: 2481
From: Montgomery, AL
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 05-24-2011 08:07 PM
Historically, going back to my history of journalism classes, originally the crime of libel did not involve a false statement. In fact, the standard was, the greater the truth, the greater the libel.
That changed in the US in 1735 with the trial of John Peter Zenger (thank you wikipedia) which ruled truth was a defense against libel.
Then in 1964, in a case from right here in good ole Montgomery, Alabama (Times v Sullivan) the Supremes ruled that falsehood wasn't enough to win a libel suit involving a public figure, actual malice aforethought and reckless disregard for the truth was necessary.
Cinemark probably counts as a public figure and actual malice has been shown, but if there are no factual inaccuracies, he'd probably win a libel suit... if his pockets are deep enough to fight one in court.
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Jonathan Smith
Expert Film Handler
Posts: 201
From: Youngstown, OH
Registered: Jan 2010
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posted 05-25-2011 12:56 PM
Well, since I'm broke from getting paid minimum wage, where are they going to take the money if they win, out of my asshole? Too bad there's no such thing as debtor's prison anymore. . .
I should bite my tongue and sit on the truth with hopes of getting, what another minimum wage projection job?
Tony: If you really believe all the BS you just spouted, you are a real coward sir. Like me or hate me, I am not going to let the truth go unknown.
"The Last Samurai" isn't one of my favorite movies for the explosions and the costuming, it's one of my favorites for the message. Better to go out in a blaze of gunfire (or bows and arrows and katana swords) than slinking through life. Feel shame if this is how you make your money, by being agreeable!
In an interesting development last night, the GM came out and spoke with me, which takes some huge balls on his part. Not sure if it's entirely legal doing that, but he gave me the contact number of someone at corporate.
If I can win a fair wage for the poor boys that are still there (most from my era have all left, like 75% are gone) I will put the signs away.
I had my picture taken by the mall cops four times yesterday. This is perfectly legal, but bothers the hell out of me because it's not on their property. They gave them to the GM I think too.
He didn't have a problem with teh signs, I even offered to revise the figures to reflect them only having 10 film screens now (or 11, I forget). He didn't take me up on it.
But I am going to continue to exercise my important free speech rights (or deep seeded anger management issues?) But I sure as F___ am not going to tuck my tail between my legs. $15/hr. is the minimum I pay anyone I employ that touches film, these guys work with one whole hell of a lot more with it for 60¢ an hour above minimum wage.
Again, I am surprised at this development, as it was less than 20 hours of picketing at this point out of my planned 480. I will continue to picket but am really looking forward to winning the projectionists (not FUCKING BOOTH USHERS) there some better wages, and recognition for their dying craft.
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Randy Stankey
Film God
Posts: 6539
From: Erie, Pennsylvania
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 05-25-2011 01:24 PM
Johnathan,
No matter how you slice it, you face a long, steep, uphill battle. It's going to take a lot more than picketing to get your message across. This isn't a physical battle nor is it a battle of wills or morals. It is a battle of communication. The question is, "Who will get their message across in a way that people will understand and agree with?"
I gave you some pretty direct advice and one example of how to present your case. Others have, too, but you chose to ignore it. This is your main problem and, if you continue on the path you are on, you will be on the losing side.
You have the right to your feelings and you have the right to express those feelings but nobody is going to listen to you for more than a minute if you continue to present yourself as a disgruntled kook. You've got to chill out a little bit and think about the way you present yourself to the public.
The truth is that the public doesn't care about how they get their movies. They can just as easily watch movies at home on TV. The future of the entire movie theater industry as we know it is in jeopardy. It's not just the jobs of theater workers and projectionists. It's the whole industry that is going through changes. Nothing is going to be the same and there's probably little we can do to change it.
Regardless of whether you believe me, your attitude, as the public sees it, is key to making substantive changes in your career but, the way you are presenting yourself, even to people on this forum who are, at least ideologically, on your side is not doing you any good.
If you keep going the way you have been, nothing will change for you and it will even get worse.
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