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Topic: Dead Body Found in Cinemark Bathroom!
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Frank Angel
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From: Brooklyn NY USA
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 01-17-2012 08:34 PM
Geez, alot a noise about...well, I won't say nothing, but certainly in the scheme of things, not all that off-the-wall. Yah, the question could be asked, why they didn't open that bathroom for cleaning, but I think Randy answered that pretty succinctly, and with his usual, insightful panache! BUT...let's be real -- that oversight didn't CAUSE the guy's heart attack, nor his demise....he wasn't accidently locked into some storage room for a week and died because of it, clawing at the door trying to excape. The cleaning oversight didn't exascebate his death, and finding him the next day or five days later changed nothing, except perhaps his body odor.
And yah, it sounds like this son is not only grieving, but also is mentally ticking away in the back of his mind the possibility of a hefty lawsuit he knows he and his lawyer will file...makin some easy money on dad's toilet bowl adventure.
As for the police, they are fine. A report comes in of a missing person but since there was no reason to believe there is foul play, they just go around asking citizens if they saw the guy, they asked the theatre personnel if he was in the theatre. They said no. That's about it. The police are not going to personally check every room attic to basement in the theatre or the surrounding buildings or break out the sniffing dogs and Swat Team in such a case. They just ask appropriate questions, give out their contact card and tell people to call if they see anything. This isn't a kidnapping case of a toddler where they found blood in the crib. This is exactly what they do for healthy, non-alzheimer's adult missing persons.
But of course the media will blow it all out of proportions because the story is a little grizzly, and if you haven't noticed, The News LOVES grizzly!
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Frank Angel
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From: Brooklyn NY USA
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 01-17-2012 09:11 PM
Yah but Dominic, those are two different issues. I admit it will bad publicity for awhile (especially that it hit the national news) maybe even bad for the entire chain, but stuff like that blows over faster than you think. They carried a report here about Dominios having two dozen rats jumping out of their basement hatch and romping around in their garbage which they left in uncovered bags in front of the store. Sure the publicity hurt then, but people have short memories. People still pile into that exact establishment. People will still take Carnival ocean cruses dispite that image of a liner nearly submerged and the people bobbing like apples in freezing water; people still fly Jet Blue even after over 100 of them were stranded, imprisoned in a Jet Blue plane on the tarmac with no water, no food, no BATHROOMS for more than 7 hours....and it happened MORE than once!
Listen, this theatre will send out a PR person and give a press release saying they are "committed" to Taken All Necessary Steps to correct the problems. But I ask, like what? Will they check the bathrooms every hour? What else can they do...they can't prevent people from dying on the crapper. But go back a year from now and they will have slacked off; it always happens. It's the nature of the human species if there isn't good management and leadership.
Anyway, that cleanliness issue has nothing to do with the severity or lack of severity of this guy's plight. He took a dump and kicked the bucket -- the theatre's lack of good operating procedures had nothing to do with it...didn't cause it, didn't quicken it. In short, there's no negligence with regard to his demise, unless of course they discover he died from rat poison that accidently got mixed in with the popcorn! And it wouldn't be hard to imagine such a scenario in that dive.
Now THAT would be a story!
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Monte L Fullmer
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From: Nampa, Idaho, USA
Registered: Nov 2004
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posted 01-17-2012 09:22 PM
quote: Dominic Espinosa
...they clearly have no care for me and my safety let alone the quality of my experience as a customer.
not a rant, but the truth: Patrons who enter ANY business ALWAYS feel like "am I safe here along with the quality of performance by the business's employees?"
I used to work at a discount 6plex that was a target by gangs.
The feeling of safety was a very high concern for all who attended there until one night, there was a scuffle between two "gang bangers" and the one suddenly left in a huffle, stormed outside and where that 'banger' spun around, pulled out a .32 and shot back with unloaded that gun into the theatre's lobby through the front door at that one he was scuffling with. that fellow wasn't hit, but bullets went into the wall, furniture and the floor.
Lobby had a few people standing around when the shooting took place and they went bezerk with fear. Got the police out there quick and they did apprehend the violater. word got around on that one quick and our business fell off real bad.
And when all of that turmoil disappared within a few months, our business was getting back up to normal until there was a parking lot shooting - once again by area gangs after someone else. They shot into the parking lot, hitting cars as they were leaving.
Once again, down went our business and the owner finally decided it was time for security to be hired ("duh!").
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rat poison that accidently got mixed in with the popcorn!
..and I've tasted some of this theatre cooked food and wonder if the stuff IS laced with rat poison or similar...I refuse to consume theatre cooked products since the proper training in storing and handling such items are far from professional.
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Joe Redifer
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From: Denver, Colorado
Registered: May 99
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posted 01-17-2012 11:26 PM
I think you might be missing some of the bigger picture, Frank. No, the theater did not cause the death nor would finding him any sooner stand any chance of making him alive again, but it proves that the theater staff and management are all VERY inattentive to their own building. How did this man find the bathroom yet the staff could not? I can see it not being found until the end of the night or, at worst, the next morning, but FIVE DAYS? The incompetence there is inexcusable, though it does sound like both Randy and you are trying to drum up excuses for the theater staff. "They're irresponsible teenagers, so it's OK" is basically what you are implying. "Even the cops couldn't find him, so it's OK" is also what you're saying. Where exactly is this bathroom that it is even hidden from the po po? I'm guessing that they didn't even look. They probably just asked the staff/management "Have you seen a missing man? He looks like he is missing" and they replied in the negatory. Maybe they even showed them a photo, but I doubt they combed the theater.
Now the world knows how easy it is to sneak into a Cinemark and rob it. Go into a bathroom. Lock it. Wait until all the movies are out and the manager assumes everyone has left and sends the rest of the staff home. Then pop out and rob the manager. Or maybe just stay in there and slash all of the screens and engage in other vandalism in the middle of the night. Sure sounds easy to do at Cinemark.
I do not excuse irresponsibility just because someone is irresponsible.
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