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Topic: Dead Body Found in Cinemark Bathroom!
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Randy Stankey
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From: Erie, Pennsylvania
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 01-21-2012 10:16 PM
quote: Michael Putlack
I think that although a heart attack killed the guy, it might have been possible to save him if the staff checked the bathroom every hour or two.
Not possible. If you don't get to a heart attack victim within five minutes of the event, the chances of saving him are somewhere between "fat chance" and "diddly squat." Even if you get to the guy in five minutes or less, your chances of saving him are a little more than 50-50. If you saw the guy go down, administered CPR (and did it correctly) until the ambulance crew arrived, your chances of saving him are pretty good.
But, let's say that you do check the bathrooms every hour. Your average chance of getting to any possible victim in less than five minutes is probably 1 in 12. (There are 12 five minute periods in an hour.) That's 8.3 percent.
This was an "Elvis Sigthing." The guy was practically dead before he even sat on the throne.
The only thing the theater did wrong was fail to check thoroughly enough.
Ask yourself this question... Is a teenage usher going to knock on the door of a public restroom? Most people have a phobia about public restrooms. Your average teenager is probably the most lutropublicaphobic of all.
So, when your average usher goes to check the bathrooms (assuming he actually does check) he's going to think, "I'm not knocking on that door when some old guy is in there, farting and stinking up the place!"
Then every other usher who comes on shift does the same thing but none of them talks to any of the others so nobody knows that the aforementioned "old guy" has been in there all day... for five days.
Don't get me wrong. This is bad. It's very bad.
But the son is just being a crybaby and the newspaper is just compounding the problem when they by giving him a public venue to cry in. The truth is that the newspaper is just taking advantage of the son's grief for their own profit.
I have had to pick up old, shitty, dead guys before. I have witnessed an Elvis Sighting. I was also the security guard on duty at a hotel when they found a guy, dead in his room who had been there for two days. The maid who came in to clean the room said she heard the guy snoring but it turns out he was already dead. The "snoring" she heard was actually the body, shall we say, "outgassing."
These things aren't fun but what the hell are you going to do? Guys die on the shitter all the time. You scoop up the shitty, old, dead guy and wheel him away. You Clorox the hell out of the bathroom. You burn the mattress and buy a new one.
Five days is quite a long time to leave a guy dead in a public bathroom but the bigger question is... "You mean to tell me that you don't clean your friggin' shitters for five days until they stink so bad you can't stand it?
Dead guy or not, that's no way to run a frickin' business!
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Christopher Crouch
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From: Holywood, ca, usa
Registered: May 2006
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posted 01-22-2012 05:35 AM
While failing to notice a rotting corpse for five days is definitely on the extreme side of things, there are a lot of theatres out there (especially megaplexes) that have areas which go unchecked for significant periods of time. Lazy or complacent, people tend to slip in to routines, neglect duties (especially checking in on less used areas), and lose site of the whole picture. Most of the time, this manifests itself via maintenance issues; this just happened to result in a more dramatic outcome. I'm not excusing such a horrific lapse in work performance, just pointing out that it's not as far fetched as one might think.
I'm sure there will be a lot of chains (especially Cinemark) sending out reminders to conduct thorough walk throughs and enforcing checklists, in the wake of this. However, I'm just as sure many people will slip back in to their poor habits within a year.
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Alan Plester
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From: great yarmouth england
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 01-22-2012 08:27 AM
Yea gods, I really cant believe what i`m` reading here, when i was in the industry,after the last show, every row of seats was checked, in both screens, all rest rooms, looked into and doors
pushed open, all flights of stairs checked, ventilation room checked, just incase someone was hiding in it, it aint rocket science, just common sense..These guys need arses kiked big time.
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Louis Bornwasser
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From: prospect ky usa
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted 01-24-2012 09:43 AM
I would have installed a dead bolt with a key on the outside and a twist lock on the inside.
In case of out-of-order, you could lock off the room. Also, in case of death/suicide, you could get in quickly. As a family bathroom, it is not normally used. In an emergency, it could also serve as a secure room for celebrities, aa room for additional stock, or even a "money vault" for heavy weekends.
From what others have said here, I don't suppose this particular location is run well enough to have any problems with extra stock, too much money, or celebrities. Louis
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