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Topic: Day and Date Update
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Frank Angel
Film God

Posts: 5305
From: Brooklyn NY USA
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 05-11-2016 09:45 PM
I did my own survey. At a dinner with people of a wide range of ages and different areas of expertise (only a handful of movie industry types), some middle-agers with their wives and some 20 somethings, I asked if there were a service that allowed you to get first run movies like Captain America - Civil War or the Starwars movie at home on the TV the very same minute it opened in the theatres, would anyone be interested in seeing it at home instead of going to the multiplex. The 20 somethings showed a bit more interest than the others who were mostly just curious. Then I said, to get a first run movie with this service, each movie would cost $50 a pop... would you still be interested? They started laughing amid shouts of "Are you effin kidding me...50 dollares?! NO WAY, etc.
Granted in the moment none seemed to take the time to do the math about how many people they could get to their $50 screening; they were just reacting to the price. It was obvious that $50 a ticket hit them as a much to high price-point for a movie ticket. One woman in her 60s looked at her husband who evidently wasn't exhibiting as negativity about it as she would have liked and she said, "You put $50 on our credit card to see a movie and you will be watching it from outside the house."
Point is, the reaction to a $50 charge for most people...and I am talking about many who are middle to lower-upper class folk who aren't exactly counting their pennies, is a sizable chunk of change; it seems that a $50 price tag as too expensive to shell out for a movie and the reaction was mostly negative. Of course the way they were thinking about it was that it was the equivalent to the price of a single ticket to a movie.
Maybe in the end if they were to figure the economics of it more carefully in terms of the additional costs associated with going to the a theatre verses stay home, they may see that it isn't as expensive as it might seem at first blush. I am only pointing out that I think the cost factor may be a much bigger psychological stumbling block that the proponents think.
While the group was visibly negative about the ticket price, they didn't seem all that concerned about the $150 set-top box. I guess they parallel that with other electronic set-top gear that they need to purchase or rent for service and $150 seemed reasonable, but it was the $50 ticket price that got the big guffaw.
If the studios support this, it way wind up being a limited niche market which may not have the dire consequences for exhibitors that we can all imagine. After all, there was a niche market for Laserdiscs with people willing to shell out $30 for a movie (adjusted for today's inflation, that probably was more like 50 bucks). And that market always remained marginal. Then again, they weren't offering day and date titles on laserdiscs either. Thing is, just cause the technology may work, doesn't mean it will catch the public's fickle magic threshold to make it take off.
And then of course, the first time someone buys a tripod and a high-end digital camera and aims it at his 4K OLED screen and makes a decent copy, one MUCH better than what that guy in a trench coat gets off a screen in the theatre and without the stress of some usher wandering in and calling the FBI and the MPAA...the jig will be up - "The Screening Room service responsible for 6 BILLION DOLLARS in revenue loss do to the piracy of NN blockbuster title." Nice thing about that, the MPAA won't be able to blame the movie theatres!!
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Randy Stankey
Film God

Posts: 6539
From: Erie, Pennsylvania
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 05-12-2016 10:20 PM
I think the whole idea is silly.
Estimate the cost of a nicely sized flat screen TV at $1,000 to $2,000... the cost of a good home theater sound system at another $500 to $1,000. Add in the cost of your DVD/Blu-Ray player, the cost of this proposed set-top box and any other gadgets you need to make a home theater and the price can easily hit $2,000 or $3,000. If you go all-out, you could top $5,000 or more.
For the price of a good home theater, you could go out to the movie theater fifty or one hundred times!
I'm not saying that a person shouldn't have a nice TV system in their house if they want one but I disagree with the idea that people can "replace" the movie theater experience with a home theater because the expense doesn't pan out.
Unless a person is a super-duper movie buff who has "movie night" every weekend of the year, all that expensive stuff that they buy is basically just going to sit and collect dust most of the time.
I know a guy who is a retired movie producer. He is one of those super-duper movie buffs and he does watch movies almost every week. All he has is a nice flat screen (Vizio, I think) and a basic home theater receiver/speaker system. It's all stuff you can easily get at Best Buy or Walmart. The whole kit-n-kaboodle probably cost less than $2,000. This is probably the only person I know who has ever gotten his money's worth out of a home theater setup.
As far as I am concerned, this is all just empty marketing designed to make money from the unwashed masses who think they are getting something special but really aren't.
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Manny Montes
Master Film Handler

Posts: 270
From: United States
Registered: Feb 2010
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posted 05-15-2016 02:38 PM
quote: Randy Stankey Estimate the cost of a nicely sized flat screen TV at $1,000 to $2,000... the cost of a good home theater sound system at another $500 to $1,000. Add in the cost of your DVD/Blu-Ray player, the cost of this proposed set-top box and any other gadgets you need to make a home theater and the price can easily hit $2,000 or $3,000. If you go all-out, you could top $5,000 or more.
I hate this system and I think the pricing is way off however the issue with this argument is that a lot of people aren't going to buy all of this equipment just for movies. I love movies and I love blu-rays, however I bought my TV, audio system, etc for TV, Gaming, Movies, streaming, etc... I think with most home theatres they are such multitaskers that I think it would be very easy for people to think "oh well I'll have that for the big game, etc" instead of thinking WOW $1500 just to watch movies, I could go to the theatre a whole bunch of times for that!"
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