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Author Topic: Fox Film Chief Stacey Snider Says Current Theatrical Windows Are ‘Anachronistic’ Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-04-2017 03:21 PM                        I get your drift about field of view, but no matter how much it "looks the same size," it's still about perception. A good theatrical presentation is just impressively bigger, that's all...and it's not just the size of the picture, it's the size of the room the picture is in. To me the biggest difference between home and theatrical is the size of the sound. In a bigger room, with a good system, the sound is bigger. There's just no other way to describe it. And at my theater we have a wood floor so you really feel it as well as hear it. It's not just about power, it's also about space. And we don't need to worry about annoying the neighbors either. We had a young mom at the show not too long ago...she'd recently had a baby and hadn't been to a movie in about a year, and afterward she came out with this big smile, and said "Wow, I forgot how much better movies are in the theater."  |  IP: Logged Tyler Purcell Expert Film Handler Posts: 180 From: Van Nuys, CA Registered: Dec 2015 posted 03-05-2017 12:46 PM                        Yes I agree that good movie theaters (which are hard to come by) do have decent screens that look great and no matter where you sit, the field of view will be larger then the vast majority of home theaters. It's just, that's not the case for most movie theaters, especially if you sit middle or towards the back. I think the vast majority of people, don't have home theaters. They have a "television" and that's about it. So their only connection to cinema at home is cable/satellite, DVD and streaming. Most people don't even have decent televisions. So sure, I can imagine people watching a movie at the cinema and being amazed at how good it is. For people who actually consume a lot of content... and invest heavily in that content like I do, we're a different breed and as I've said earlier, we don't have the time to see all the movies we want to see at the theater. We also have the money to pay for a service to watch them at home. So I get both side of the coin... the people who love the cinema for the fact they can see something they don't get at home and the people who simply can't afford the time it takes to see something at the theater and will pay to have it at home. Is this a small population? Yes... I was thinking 15% of frequent movie goers would invest. It only takes a few people to start a trend and I think it would catch on like wildfire. Not in rural areas, but in cities where to be frank, it's a pain to even leave the house, let alone get in the car, take the train or walk. The problem is, nobody takes convenience and time into the equation. Move to Manhattan or even downtown LA, then ask me if you wanna go to the movies.  |  IP: Logged Frank B. McLaughlin Film Handler Posts: 76 From: Denver, CO Registered: Dec 2011 posted 03-05-2017 02:54 PM                        The independent exhibitor in metro areas is almost extinct. The circuits will zone you out (this is slowly disappearing), the studios will overcharge you, and should you make a booking mistake and it is turkey time your plain stuck. You find exhibitors who really care in places like Montana not Los Angeles. The circuits are driving customers to the living room.  |  IP: Logged Justin Hamaker Film God Posts: 2253 From: Lakeport, CA USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 03-05-2017 06:33 PM                        quote: Tyler Purcell For people who actually consume a lot of content... and invest heavily in that content like I do, we're a different breed Again, this is just a small segment of the population. A 2014 study by the MPAA found that only about 11% of the population were frequent moviegoers - people who go at least once a month, while 48% were occasional - meaning less than once a month. Another 9% were infrequent, meaning they go about once a year. 32% of the population are not moviegoers at all. According to the study, the 11% of frequent movie goers accounted for 51% of all tickets sold. Another interesting finding was that frequent and occasional moviegoers were more likely to be tech savvy than the rest of the population. These people were more likely than the rest of the population to have a computer, disc player, smart-phone, tablet, video game system, and/or video-streaming device. Since this was in 2014, the technologies are likely different, but I would suspect the same pattern probably holds.  |  IP: Logged Lyle Romer Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1400 From: Davie, FL, USA Registered: May 2002 posted 03-05-2017 07:57 PM                     quote: Tyler Purcell Mike... It's called field of view. I have a 7 foot wide screen and I sit 10 feet away from it. So in my brain, it's just as big as a screen in the movie theater. It does not work that way. Your brain can still figure out the actual size of the screen. Unless the room was pitch black (which is pretty much impossible due to the light from the screen), there are references that tell you how big the screen is. I can go 2 feet away from my 65" TV and although it will fill my entire field of view, it doesn't look huge like sitting half way back in a theatre with a 60 foot wide screen. The perception of screen size is a combination of field of view and the actual physical size.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-05-2017 08:45 PM                        Thanks Lyle, that's what I was trying to get across but you did it better than me. quote: Tyler Purcell I was thinking 15% of frequent movie goers would invest. Well...if Justin's figures are correct, and 11% of the population are frequent moviegoers, that's about 36 million people in the U.S. 15% of that number is about 5 and a half million. If all those people paid $50 for a first run movie, that'd raise 275 million. But it would never happen -- because not everybody wants to see any particular movie. On a good day, you'd probably get one-third of the potential customers, at the very most. So, 1/3 of 5.5 million is under 2 million people. If that many people paid fifty bucks each, you're raising somewhere between 90 and 100 million. If 20% of that is going to the theaters, it's down to between 70 and 80 million. The actual figures would probably be less. Hell, even a medium sized blockbuster can sell that much in tickets in two days. Disney will probably do $400 million in ticket sales on "Beauty and the Beast" and they will pocket at least $250 million from that gross. And then they have the streaming/Netflix market a few months later to pad their take, and then physical sales after that. The fact that Disney is the only studio (so far) not talking about this $50 madness shows that they alone have bothered to do the math.  |  IP: Logged Tyler Purcell Expert Film Handler Posts: 180 From: Van Nuys, CA Registered: Dec 2015 posted 03-05-2017 11:37 PM                        Hey Justin, interesting statistics. Are those on the MPAA site?  |  IP: Logged Rex Oliver Film Handler Posts: 65 From: Greenville, NC. USA Registered: Apr 2013 posted 03-06-2017 12:39 AM                     Watching movies at home or the theater-when I go to the theater-its nice to have SOMEONE ELSE show the movie to you.A few times I watched at the theater I was the only one in the auditorium-I go to the Late shows.Felt special that night-no one else watching but me! One time while watching alone-the sound went out-was during the movie "Sniper" Told the concessionist and she spread the word to the projectionist(still playing from film)He corrected the problem and came down and gave me a free pass for another moive!Used it the next day.  |  IP: Logged

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