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Topic: "The Living Wage" (coming soon to a Theatre Near You)
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Bobby Henderson
"Ask me about Trajan."
Posts: 10973
From: Lawton, OK, USA
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 01-10-2018 04:18 PM
The testing company we contract with is pretty good. If someone tests positive for some type of drug the company will run another test to make sure it's not a false positive. They're up on what kinds of foods or other substances can create a false positive. They're also up to speed on how anyone can try to game the system.
One former employee tried smuggling someone else's urine into a random screening, passing it off as his own. He had the sample stored in his car. The former employee didn't know the technician would check the temperature of the sample. Urine cools so many degrees per minute in room temperature after leaving the body. When confronted about it the former employee didn't want to submit another sample. He had failed a drug test just weeks before. Failing this time would probably cost him his job, but smuggling pee definitely did the trick.
quote: Scott Norwood
Again, I support the idea in cases where safety is an issue. I do not support it in other cases. I do not use illegal drugs, but I also do not believe that my employer has any right to know what I do or do not do at home on my own time.
The problem is there are no reliable sobriety tests for drugs like marijuana, misused prescription drugs and hard street drugs. They don't metabolize the same way as alcohol, whose impairment effects are easy to track via breathalyzer or blood tests.
Letting someone who operates dangerous machinery, like a crane truck, consume recreational drugs on his own free time is a risky gamble, both in terms of safety and legal liability. If the truck driver gets in an accident and is at fault he's going to get drug tested. If he tests positive for something like pot there is no reliable way to tell if he smoked his last joint at home on his own time or got baked before getting in the truck.
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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!
Posts: 12814
From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 01-10-2018 05:03 PM
Leo, I think you'll find that Gen-X will be nailed by their technological obsolescence too. If you find your specialty heading to oblivion, you might find the next thing you are looking for some young person will have the edge on you in terms of growing up with the new technology, speed and the willingness to work MUCH cheaper than the person in their 50s/60s that have a house, kids and other debts to pay. The realities are, as you age, it gets harder to learn new things, your body slows down and you are at a physical disadvantage to younger people. Normally, what an elder person has is experience/stability. When your career evaporates, you lose both. If you are lucky, your industry merely transitions and you can apply past experience to the new technology and adapt. I'd say that the cinema industry has that to a degree. Working on a digital projector is the same and different than a film projector. Film sound and digital sound are near identical. There is enough commonality that MOST techs could make the jump to varying degrees. Clearly, the older they were, the harder the computer stuff was and the IT does tend to baffle them a bit (not all but by and large, it all depends on how computer literate they were when it happened).
And, if we're taking a vote, I'm AGAINST drug testing by employers as an invasion of privacy. The only exception I'd make would be for heavy machinery, police, doctors/medical personnel, public transportation type employees. Like Scott, I'd pass as I don't use the stuff but I think an employer should have a NEED to know and except in the above type cases where there is a safety factor, if you can't observe your employee acting odd or productivity is down, there is no need to know what they did on their off time. I put the need for employee privacy above the need of a company most every time. But that is me.
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Bobby Henderson
"Ask me about Trajan."
Posts: 10973
From: Lawton, OK, USA
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 01-10-2018 06:32 PM
My company would prefer not to have a random screening policy. The testing service isn't cheap. But we're forced by law to at least screen anyone who drives or operates the booms/ladders on our work trucks.
quote: Steve Guttag
If you find your specialty heading to oblivion, you might find the next thing you are looking for some young person will have the edge on you in terms of growing up with the new technology, speed and the willingness to work MUCH cheaper than the person in their 50s/60s that have a house, kids and other debts to pay. The realities are, as you age, it gets harder to learn new things, your body slows down and you are at a physical disadvantage to younger people. Normally, what an elder person has is experience/stability. When your career evaporates, you lose both.
Worse yet, outsourcing is still very much alive and well in certain job categories. If someone is going to re-train for a different line of work it really helps to pick a trade that cannot be easily/cheaply performed remotely in another country. Better yet, jobs that have to be performed locally, in-person are the safest bet.
The elimination of many main street, brick and mortar jobs in retail, restaurants, etc will take away one of the fall-back options for aging workers who get displaced from their career jobs.
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