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Rachel Carter
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 248
From: Gloucester, Massachusetts, USA
Registered: Dec 2000


 - posted 04-03-2001 02:44 AM      Profile for Rachel Carter   Email Rachel Carter   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Scott:
I completly agree with you. I was talking more along the lines of rude and not needed emails. Aaron sent me a copy of his, it was in no way threatening but just plain rude.

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Barry Floyd
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Lebanon, Tennessee, USA
Registered: Mar 2000


 - posted 04-03-2001 08:49 AM      Profile for Barry Floyd   Author's Homepage   Email Barry Floyd   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
My SCORE rep came from "Pennsylvania Mining and Steel".... not quite the cinema industry, but so far they've been a big help.

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Barry Floyd
Floyd Entertainment Group
Nashville, Tennessee
(Drive-In Theatre - Start-Up)

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Brad Miller
Administrator

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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99


 - posted 04-04-2001 02:29 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Ok Andrew I know you are still reading the forums here, and specifically this thread (the access logs do not lie). I have taken the emails that Aaron received and compared them to every email you have sent me over the last couple of months and with a little assistance have absolutely confirmed that the inappropriate emails that Aaron received did in fact come from you. Yes, they were sent from your father's ISP account, that same dedicated IP address and all the way down to the same computer you use every day which was even further verified by the forum's logs! Please listen carefully...

The next time anyone gets an email that is suspected to have come from you and is forwarded to me, we will do a full investigation on it, track down through the ISP the owner of that account and take action that you and especially your father will not be pleased with in the least bit. Your father's account is already on the verge of being shut down because of your childish actions and if you receive one more official and verifiable complaint, it will be. If you decide to try and get smart by using a friend's account to illegally spam and harass people, don't worry as it can STILL be traced back to you and ultimately it is your father who will be responsible for your actions. I will not tolerate any more of this nonsense from you. You have no further business here as a member nor a lurker. Do not email me nor any other member of Film-Tech again.

In light of this nonsense, I have made the decision to restrict memberships to 18 years of age, since that is the age people can be easily verified. The only exception to this rule will be 16 and 17 year olds who have a job (who are always welcome). No more children will be allowed. Anyone who cannot be verified as an adult (meaning the 16 and 17 year olds) can send in a paycheck stub for verification if the members or I feel the need. I don't care if it is a McDonald's check stub, that still shows a certain age and most importantly...a little bit of maturity.

Grow up a little bit Andrew and if you still have your movie theater dream a few years down the road after you have had a real job, send me an email at that point. The members here tried to help you and perhaps in a few years you will listen and can contribute as you mature. At that point you will be welcome back. I think that is more than fair, but again do not bother emailing me on this as that decision is final.

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Mark Lensenmayer
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1605
From: Upper Arlington, OH
Registered: Sep 1999


 - posted 04-04-2001 02:41 PM      Profile for Mark Lensenmayer   Email Mark Lensenmayer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I'm a bit off topic here, so I'll be brief. Most people are not aware that every single piece of data their computer sends across the internet contains an identifier that is unique to THAT COMPUTER. (No, not the IP address, something called a MAC address.) If you send it, someone somewhere can trace that directly back to a particular machine.

Staying anonymous on the Web is more difficult than one would think.

Andrew, Brad is not kidding when he says things can be traced.

Mark Lensenmayer

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Evans A Criswell
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From: Huntsville, AL, USA
Registered: Mar 2000


 - posted 04-04-2001 04:31 PM      Profile for Evans A Criswell   Author's Homepage   Email Evans A Criswell   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Is the MAC address the hardware ethernet address? Every ethernet card has an address (machines can have more than one). Unless someone moves their ethernet cards around from machine to machine, those addresses should be reliable.

Some forums I have used in the past, instead of just giving the name of the poster, say something like

"Evans A Criswell at 146.229.80.103"

for identifying users. I don't think that is necessary here since I believe Brad approves everyone who participates here on a per person basis which eliminates 99.99 percent of these kinds of problems. Doing that here would mainly show whether someone is at work or at home when they post.

It's best to never use computers or the net to try to get even with someone or harass someone. Once a message is sent or an action performed, there may be long-term traces of it that are beyond the sender's control that can never be erased. Something you do today could come back to haunt you years from now. Keep in mind that once an email is sent and is received at the other end, there is NOTHING you can do to change what you wrote or take the message back.

Evans A Criswell



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Leo Enticknap
Film God

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From: Loma Linda, CA
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 - posted 04-04-2001 04:48 PM      Profile for Leo Enticknap   Author's Homepage   Email Leo Enticknap   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
There was an incident a few months ago which made all the papers here - some schoolkid in Wales sent an e-mail to Bill Clinton threatening to assasinate him. Less than 24 hours later, a vanload of Special Branch officers, having been asked to do so by the FBI, descended on this school's computer room and arrested the little brat. I don't think he was ever charged with anything, but this underlines Evans' and Mark's point that the authors of emails can be traced without too much difficulty.


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Mark Lensenmayer
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Upper Arlington, OH
Registered: Sep 1999


 - posted 04-04-2001 08:15 PM      Profile for Mark Lensenmayer   Email Mark Lensenmayer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Ethernet Hardware Address = MAC Address

MAC = Media Access Control

MAC Address = 48 Bits (24 for Manufacturer ID and 24 for serial number)

IP Address is NOT the same as MAC

Mark Lensenmayer


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Scott Norwood
Film God

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From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 04-04-2001 08:41 PM      Profile for Scott Norwood   Author's Homepage   Email Scott Norwood   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
What they said.

Everything is traceable, usually without even needing a court order for the ISP in question to provide specific information.

Every time a user sends mail or hits a web site, for example, information is transmitted that identifies the hostname and IP address of the originating machine (among other things) and, usually, other information like the software and operating system being used. Other information like ethernet hardware (MAC) addresses and such may be available as well. This isn't a "big brother" scheme--this information is necessary to make network software work, and the accountability benefit is just a result of this.

Bottom line: no one should do or say anything on line that wouldn't be appropriate to do or say face to face.

This forum has been quite civil; many others aren't.

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Joe Redifer
You need a beating today

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From: Denver, Colorado
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 - posted 04-05-2001 02:30 AM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Question:

What if a particular computer user does not use ethernet? What if he/she is stuck back in the 1830's and still uses a modem? Do modems have MAC addresses?

I know that there are a few ISP's that give you a brand new IP address every time you sign on, and cable modem users IP changes all the time... DSL users every once in a blue moon (but it does change). So I would think that every computer motherboard would require a MAC.


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Mark DeLettera
Film Handler

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From: Venice, Florida
Registered: Aug 1999


 - posted 04-05-2001 09:05 AM      Profile for Mark DeLettera   Email Mark DeLettera   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
That's how they finally capured the asailant of Dr. Slepian, the Buffalo, New York abortion Doctor who was slain in his home by a sniper in 1998. The FBI did some "live e-mail tracing" that located the murderer (Kopp) just this past week, living near Paris, France, E-mailing his cohorts in the U.S. for $$$!
Full story:
http://www.rochesternews.com/0330story2.html

So, beware of your E-mails....if they feel the need, Big Brother may be watching!!

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Mark DeLettera
Eastman Kodak Co.
Worldwide Technical Svs.
Rochester, NY
mark.delettera@kodak.com
716-588-4189

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Jerry Chase
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Margate, FL, USA
Registered: Nov 2000


 - posted 04-05-2001 10:43 AM      Profile for Jerry Chase   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
There are ways of being untracable to anyone but the Feds if you understand the system and start out with the idea that you want to be totally untracable, however, content and writing patterns can also be used to link a person to what they send. Most people have a habitual style of writng, including sentence construction, errors in spelling, grammar, etc.

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Christopher Seo
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Los Angeles, CA
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 04-13-2001 04:46 PM      Profile for Christopher Seo   Email Christopher Seo   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
FWIW, the Ethernet address (the 48-bit one) in 3Com cards can be reprogrammed with the proper know-how.


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Mitchell Cope
Master Film Handler

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From: Overland Park, KS, United States
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 06-14-2002 01:58 PM      Profile for Mitchell Cope   Email Mitchell Cope   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Raising this to the top for Barry.

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Greg Mueller
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1687
From: Port Gamble, WA
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 06-14-2002 03:11 PM      Profile for Greg Mueller   Author's Homepage   Email Greg Mueller   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Can someone suggest some reading on reading the headers on email? When I look at the full header my eyes kind of glaze over. I'd really like to know where stuff comes from, especially spam

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Greg Mueller
Amateur Astronomer, Machinist, Filmnut
http://www.muellersatomics.com/

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