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Tony Bandiera Jr
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...the problem of getting enough light on the screen with that tremendous throw.
Jeff, the throw is irrelevant in determining lamp size (other than lens losses which are relatively small), and every time I see this come up I cringe.

It is the size of the screen that matters. You could, for example, light a 25 foot wide screen with a 2k bulb with a throw of a mile (if you can find a lens that long of focal length) just as well as you could with a 60 foot throw.

Many books of the early era of cinema had to emphasize that point as it was a myth that existed then.

I am sure one reason that myth got started was because such a large venue had a huge screen so the ones who didn't know better automatically assumed that the throw was causing the loss of light.

I have a wonderful book about the old movie palaces, "The Best Remaining Seats" Ben M. Hall, Bramhall House, New York, publisher. It has loads of info about the classic palaces, including a comprehensive look at the Roxy. They also go into detail about many of those palaces pipe organs.

Locally, those in So Calf. need to check out the Old Town Music Hall, El Segundo, CA. They have a restored Wurlitizer pipe organ and play it with silent film screenings. Find them HERE.

Conrad Button and I installed a pair of Century 35mm machines there many years ago. Sadly, the combination of Conrad's passing, one of the OTMH owner's passing, and loss of the volunteer projectionists made them switch to all video a few years ago. But the presentations are still excellent.

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Jeff Taylor
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Sorry, Tony. I've heard that before, you're right, and it's logical. Still, for whatever reason I know that they did strike prints a stop or two or three lighter in the old days for RCMC as with some driveins, so following up on Dick May's comment that they get 12 footlamberts with 5k on 35mm it's clearly pushing the envelope. Still, I'm old enough I can remember seeing films there years ago (Midnight Lace sticks in my mind for some odd reason), and it was a damn fine experience.

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Tony Bandiera Jr
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No problem Jeff. [Smile] And since they had the crappy ORC light Hogs I am sure that was one reason the special prints were struck.

Drive-ins, even with good lamps, still had the huge screen size issues that ate up all the light. (Along with screen surface degradation, fog, mist, ambient lights, moonlight, etc.)

You should check out that book I mentioned if you can find a copy. [Smile]

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Richard May
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It's still an experience seeing a film there.

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