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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

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And then there is the obligitory but never wanted smart-ass "shoulda bought a Mac" response and use OS X

Steve

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Michael Schaffer
"Where is the
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We have Macs with OS X at work and they crash and hang a lot! Really!
Michael

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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

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Actually, I'm running on OS 9.2 but newer is always better, right? I can't remember the last time I crashed on it. While running Virtual PC (5) and emulating Win98SE, DOS6.2, Win3.11 I have FAR fewer crashes than on real PCs! Why? I haven't a clue. One would think a software emulation would be more buggy.

Steve

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Josh Jones
Redhat

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Dont ask me why, but it magicaly started working again last night. Booted up as if nothing happened

Oh well, thats windows for you.....

Josh

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Will Morrow
Film Handler

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What is the difference between XP Pro and 2000??? Especially if I am using NTFS under XP Pro? One thing about my system is that I added a PNY256 meg chip and now it freezes up. I have never had a problem with PNY RAM. My g/f is exchanging it for a new chip today in hopes that it was just a bad one. Before this addition, I don't think my XPBox ever frose up on me.

Any comments are appreciated.

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Michael Schaffer
"Where is the
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Steve,
many Windows crashes and lock-ups are caused by conflicting programs accessing the hardware at the same time. So it`s not really surprising that Virtual PC runs more stably because it is embedded in the Mac OS. Which itself has less problems with hardware access conflicts since the Macs are so standardised.
By the way, I may have exaggerated our problems with OS X just a little bit. The point is, it did lock up sometimes, which is especially annoying when you call your Mac-fanatic pals for advice and all you get is "that can`t be, Macs don`t crash".
A friend ran the SDDS setup on his powerbook with Virtual PC under OS X using a USB/serial port adapter and it worked very well. That was very impressive, especially since the setup software doesn`t run under Windows XP. But with his solution, he could have the latest OS on his powerbook and still run older programs. I agree there is a lot to be said for the Mac.
Michael

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Paul G. Thompson
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Josh, if that thing goes flakey again, check the CPU blower. If the CPU gets too hot, the computer will have a very shitty day.

Michael, I agree a MAC is a good machine. However, there are hundreds and hundreds of programs that you can buy for it. With DOS and Windows, there are thousands and thousands.

I also agree with you about the conflict problems. If the programs are written well and installed properly, the PC can be extremely reliable.

Case at point: We use the Pristine "Rapid Fire" program in our on-air and production room computers at the radio station. These computers have not been shut down for over a year now, and they still run flawlessy. It is a MS-DOS based program. Other radio stations report the same reliability. About once a month, we are supposed to defrag the drives, but that never seems to get done. The program seems to be bulletproof.

I might add this: Many instability problems of the PC's are due to incorrect BIOS set-up. Many IBM clone builders just snatch the system board out of the box, screw it down, and add all the shit. They don't go through the Advanced BIOS settings to set it up properly. Then they run like crap! Then I have to mention third and fourth party software. Some of that stuff is so poorly written, it'll make anything crash. With some of this rottin' software people jam into their computers, it is a wonder the computers run at all!

Those who build them and set up the Advanced BIOS Settings correctly will have a very fine machine.


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Michael Schaffer
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That`s right, and setting up the BIOS properly is really what seperates the men from the boys. Nowadays, with graphic user interfaced operating systems, everyone thinks he is a computer expert because he can click around. I also agree that often it`s badly written programs which mess up the system. People install lots of programs, test versions, shareware etc. which suffocate the system. In many cases I found that having a good program to check and clean the registry solved all the problems when people were already prepared to completely reinstall the OS.
It has also to be remembered that all the Windows versions are operating systems for machines based on an open industry standard. There are literally millions of different configurations. So sometimes I think it`s a miracle that it works at all.
Michael

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Paul G. Thompson
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Scott, I just checked Microsoft's Windows 2000 update website. It contains no "Service Pack 3" update.

Beware, people. It could have been someone with a Microsoft update look-alike page looking for information in your computers. I have seen this happen once about 4 years ago. I questioned it immediately, and the ISP provider launched an immediate investigation. (AOL)


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Mark Gulbrandsen
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I happen to like XP Pro. Donno about XP home version though. XP Pro networks really well and is rock solid. Don't have any scandisk stuff in you accidentally power down either. Still has defrag though and disk clean to keep data in order. Since XP Pro and Win 2000 are all 32 bit OS's you will see alot more speed out of your machine. The main problem with Win2000 is the lack of drivers for older hardware. I've found that with XP Pro there are about ten times more drivers available. Also XP Pro is VERY user friendly.

As far as Microsoft looking into your computer goes, how about all you that have high speed internet access. Your computer has probably been hacked many times from the head end without you even knowing it. I think Microsofts looking at serial numbers of your OS, motherboard types, and CPU's is pretty lame in itself. Sure its stupid, but not nearly as bad as someone at your ISP looking at all those X rated photos you have stored on your drive. In some areas that CAN get you in trouble. A firewall should easily keep any snoopers out and anyone with HS IPS service should have a fiewall to prevent this.

MAC is good for alot of things but its uses are far more limited due to lack of software and hardware.

Mark


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Paul G. Thompson
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I read somewhere that the FBI has some very powerful software that will penetrate the highest security levels imaginable, even the encrypted stuff. I guess it looks at the keystrokes, and gets converted into useful information.

Putting and keeping "X" rated pictures in the PC's is not cool for the reason Mark stated. I have also been told that even if they are deleted, they are still there somewhere in the drive, even if the recycle bin is emptied. Remember the old "undelete" command DOS used? Well, I am sure there are more powerful ways available today. Someone also told me there is software that can dig into the hard drive 10 or more layers deep to see what was on the drive.

When I installed W2KP in this machine, the installation found the second drive I had turned off in the system BIOS. I had to physically unplug the IDE cable from that drive to continue installation. W2KP did not want to install anything because that second drive had a different version of windows that it did not like.

If the CPU Serial Number option is turned off in the BIOS, I have been told that XP will still find it through the back door.

Beware of the modems and LAN cards - they have little feetprints imbedded, too!


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Gordon McLeod
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Use OS2Warp and it will be rock stable 32 bit
the only problem is getting newer drivers and software but in reality there are good office suites available for it and the best one Star Office is free download

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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

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The software/hardware issue on the Mac has and always will be there. Then again, with VPC, you have a way to run WinDoze stuff as well. As for hardware, with both platforms pretty much using the same I/O (USB, Firewire, Ethernet...etc.), that issue has been pretty much addressed.

Steve

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David Stambaugh
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Windows 2000 Service Pack 3

I've installed it on several machines at work with no problems.

-dave


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Paul G. Thompson
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David, I guess that makes it official, then. Thanks. I'll probably install it after I read the fine print.

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