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Author Topic: If U no hw 2 rd ths U R gr8 Glenda Cockrum Film Handler Posts: 58 From: Monaca, PA, USA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 03-09-2003 11:41 PM                     And here I thought it was an evil plot by my teenage daughter's age group to drive parents crazy trying to figure out what the heck these kids are saying in the chat rooms! All this time they have been students of Orwell's vision of the future. Oh, wait a minute , my daughter read Orwell!? If it doesn't say Harry Potter on the front she won't touch a book! Back to reality  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 03-31-2003 03:32 PM                     This guy has such a lovely way of putting things. I feel his annoyance. I get similar (although not as immature) emails all the time from brainless wonders. His description of "The self-absorbed offended asshole" is all too frequent from people who like to tell others how to run their lives. People have no sense of humor. http://maddox.xmission.com/aliens.html  |  IP: Logged Evans A Criswell Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1579 From: Huntsville, AL, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 03-31-2003 04:50 PM                        It's funny that this thread suddenly came back to the top. Just a couple of weeks ago, a friend of mine was asking me to send him the details of a code system that I developed long ago that I currently use for entering text into cell phones (like for labeling phone numbers (names, etc.)). It's a code system I came up with long ago that is mostly a substitution scheme with some strange notations. [1]v/>ST475#D-2. (I drove to Macon, GA 2 days ago). [1]:[0]. I see you. [--1]'[3]=^607F. [--1]73CC. (Our jobs are cool. We rock.) If someone is going to adopt a code to use for shorthand, then I can see different groups developing their own variations so that outsiders are obvious. ST6=[]B70D=*[3]. (Denver is where Brad will be working.) Unless you knew how this code system worked, you would not be able to figure it out easily unless you had a lot of examples. Of course, the system used by most teenagers consist of shortening phrases by making acronyms out of them or abbreviating words in different ways. Shorthand codes, and codes in general, are very interesting to me. My code system has the problem that nobody knows it well enough to write in it but me, so I could not use it on chat or anything. It's funny that I didn't think about this code system when this was being discussed earlier. >=|!>= (to be or not to be) I wonder if there will ever be a standard universal accepted shorthand that everyone will understand? Will cell phones and chat rooms necessitate such a thing? Only the future will tell. If I'm going to use a code, I can type abbreviations and substitutions faster in the code system I developed then simply abbreviating words "teenager style", but it still isn't as fast as just typing in the English. However, this code system could probably be translated back and forth to/from English with a computer program more easily than "teenager style" abbreviations and acronyms.  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 03-31-2003 04:58 PM                        quote: I wonder if there will ever be a standard universal accepted shorthand that everyone will understand? Will cell phones and chat rooms necessitate such a thing? Only the future will tell. NO, it won't. People, not humans, are too stupid.  |  IP: Logged Dustin Mitchell Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1865 From: Mondovi, WI, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 03-31-2003 06:06 PM                     Newspeak is doubleplusplusgood.  |  IP: Logged Michael Gonzalez Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 790 From: Grand Island , NE USA Registered: Sep 2000 posted 04-01-2003 01:38 PM                     There is an article in todays USA Today about this very subject. http://www.usatoday.com/usatonline/20030401/5018341s.htm  |  IP: Logged Evans A Criswell Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1579 From: Huntsville, AL, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 04-01-2003 02:00 PM                        It's interesting. I've never actually watched young people these days communicate on instant messenger. I communicate with several people per day on instant messenger and for the most part, normal English grammar is used. Occasionally, things like emoticons and things like "afk" (away from keyboard) are used, but not too much. The system I came up with long ago is not based on crude abbreviations of things -- it's designed to assign codes to frequently talked-about people and places, and commonly used verbs, with most other things being spelled out in a 15-character alphabet. Since 1976, it's evolved into a system in which there are few English sentences that could not be written. The only way such a system would work in IM is if everyone to be involved in the conversations agreed on a set of common codes for people and places spefiic for that group. Different groups would have different mappings, making intergroup communication impossible. For example, [97N]p/>ST70#D--. means "Kira went to Nashville yesterday." The [97N] and ST70 codes may mean different things to a different person or group. To another group, it would simply say "Some person we don't know the identity of went to some place we don't know the identity of yesterday." Or maybe a different group decides to use different assignments for single-letter verbs and nouns, so that all it would say is "Someone we don't know the identity of took some action in the past tense involving some place we don't know the identity of, involving some unknown noun that is discrete and has a well-defined predecessor." I've always been interested in language and find the shorthands used by different groups interesting. There are many coding systems for things out there in different types of business.  |  IP: Logged Douglas Curry Film Handler Posts: 21 From: Garbutt, Queensland, Australia Registered: Nov 2002 posted 04-03-2003 09:59 AM                        4ND +H3n yoU'v3 9ot wH4t tH3Y C4lL "l33t sp34k".. Ye+ @N0+HEr annOYiNg LIttlE F0rM 0F cOmmuN1C4+1oN  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 04-03-2003 02:51 PM                        "Leet Speak" is retarded. It takes a billion times longer to type than a normal sentence. But it does definitely make you more "elite". An elite moron. The type of moron that all other morons aspire to be.  |  IP: Logged Daniel Boisson Expert Film Handler Posts: 157 From: Buffalo, NY, USA Registered: Oct 2001 posted 04-03-2003 05:42 PM                     quote: so George Orwell was right... Newspeak  |  IP: Logged John Spooner Expert Film Handler Posts: 186 From: South Australia, Australia Registered: Jan 2003 posted 04-06-2003 01:16 PM                     I must also be old fashioned as I write letters, faxes, e-mails and sms messages in plain English. Anyone who has done radio communication knows the importance of clear plain speech (unless codes or nick names are essential for security), to ensure the receiving party obtains the correct information. The ridiculous kiddyspeak being referred to on this forum is ambiguous and no substitute for correct lexicon. The points raised by Evans and other colleagues is so correct, in that it does take longer to write in kiddyspeak than plain English, not to mention the extra time taken up composing and translating the nonsense. As a final observation, would the 16 yo choc-toppers (popcornprojectionists) write their screening notes in kiddyspeak. Real projectionists write their notes, screening reports and so on in plain English. Regards. John Spooner.  |  IP: Logged Charles Everett Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1470 From: New Jersey Registered: May 2001 posted 12-16-2003 06:19 PM                     Seen on an EA Sports billboard in Toronto: char msg []={78, 111, 119, 32, 72, 105, 114, 105, 110, 0}; Care to translate that for us, Bobby H? (Source: pbase.com via Progressive Review)  |  IP: Logged Adam Martin I'm not even gonna point out the irony. Posts: 3686 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Nov 2000 posted 12-16-2003 07:10 PM                     It says "Now Hirin" with a null character hanging off the end (as Charles has mis-copied it). I'm not quite sure why you're directing this at Bobby, since he hasn't even posted in this thread ...  |  IP: Logged Bob Maar (Maar stands for Maartini) Posts: 28608 From: New York City & Newport, RI Registered: Feb 2001 posted 12-16-2003 08:49 PM                        Is it possible that Charles drink's more Martini's than me?  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 12-16-2003 08:53 PM                        Bobby H were R U? U need 2 sdolve the probln;mes!!!  |  IP: Logged

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