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Topic: She wants me to move the toilet 6 inches to the RIGHT!
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Michael Schaffer
"Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?"

Posts: 4143
From: Boston, MA
Registered: Apr 2002
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posted 05-09-2003 12:06 PM
Yes, Randy Drache=dragon, Futter=fodder. I found the word very interesting since it is very clear from the words and the spelling that it comes from German, but I have never heard someone use it. I have never met anybody who spoke authentic Yiddish, but I have seen some very interesting old movies in the language. These were American productions from the 30s made for Jewish immigrants from Eastern Europe. They preserve some of the old "shtetl" world which has been destroyed by the anti-semitic excesses of that time. Still, there are many Yiddish words and expressions in modern German, especially in the Berlin dialect. For instance, Schlamassel, Kittchen, Ganove, kaputt.
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Gerard S. Cohen
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 975
From: Forest Hills, NY, USA
Registered: Sep 2001
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posted 05-13-2003 07:57 PM
For Randy, Michael et al:
As they used to say in the garment industry, "DRESS BRITISH and SPEAK YIDDISH."
Here's a way to keep your terms straight: The waiter who spills the soup on a patron, is a SHLEMIEL. The diner who gets drenched is a SHLIMAZEL. The idiot busboy who just stands and laughs is a SHMENDRICK.
[shlimazel=dark (bad)+ luck] "shmuck" is from German and originally meand "jewel" or "little decoration", but when used for the male member is a strong pejorative, very insulting to the person being described. There are Yiddish glossaries on the Internet. The books of the late Leo Rosten, beginning with "The Joys of Yiddish" are enjoyable introductions to this most colorful language, which infuses the speech of all New Yorkers, because of the influence of the garment trade, Catskill and TV standup commedians, and newspaper columnists.
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Randy Stankey
Film God

Posts: 6539
From: Erie, Pennsylvania
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 05-13-2003 10:34 PM
If you are a boy and you are Jewish, eight days after you are born, a Moehl will come and perform a Bris on you. The piece that's left over is the schmuck.
If you don't have a bris, you might get schmegme. If you don't wash your schwantz to get rid of the schmegme, you might get a putz.
That's about the least disgusting way I can say it.
Now, about that toilet...
Last Friday evening, my stepfather (a general contractor for 30 years) came over to the house to give his opinion. As I said, the soil stack comes up from the basement to the second floor. With the help of my stepfather, we discovered that it comes up into the attic about 4 feet outside the bathroom. It comes up between the joists in the attic and hits a 90 deg. elbow then heads horizontally toward the bathroom. It runs orthogonally to the joists, under the bathroom wall then over to the toilet. Directly under the toilet, it takes another 90 deg. bend and comes out at the floor flange.
Theoretically, one might be able to cut the cast iron pipe off under the floorboards, use a Neoprene sleeve to add on a piece of PVC pipe and extend the reach of the soil pipe. NOPE! Can't do that. Since the pipe comes into the room at an angle, extending it would move the commode toward the back wall as well as moving it to the side.
If you wanted to do this project, the soil pipe would have to be cut off in the basement and a new pipe would have to be put in, all the way up to the second floor. THEN every single joist between the vertical section and the floor flange would have to be cut to make a "notch" for the pipe to go through, under the floor.
That didn't really impress her very much. For some reason she didn't get the idea what a difficult and "ICKY" job this would be. I talked her into letting me take the toilet off the floor and looking at the soil pipe from that view. I disconnected the water line, bailed out the water and took the toilet out.
This is where the beautiful part happens!...
She came into the bathroom, took one look down the "shit hole" and suddenly her whole attitude about the project changed. There's nothing that'll change your wife's mind faster than looking down a stinky, filthy sewer so that she can realize what a stinky, filthy and EXPENSIVE job it would be to move the toilet.
Long story short... The bathroom is finally just about finished! I overlaid the old (asbestos?) floor tiles with a sheet of 1/4 inch "BC" grade plywood and used drywall screws to fasten it down every six inches. (Every three inches at the edges and near the seams.) We sealed the plywood with a liquid latex floor sealer and put down some nice self-adhesve vinyl tiles. (Faux green malachite pattern.) All we need to do now is put some cove molding down around the edges. I'm advocating 1/4 round. She's "thinking about it". We do this, touch up the scuffs in the paint I made when putting the plywood down and we're DONE!
About that asbestos... Yes, I think the old tiles are asbestos. I'm not going to spend the time or the trouble to find out for sure. Some things it's better not to know. 90% of the tiles are still in place and are undisturbed. There were a few of them that were loose. Those we discarded by taking them to an asbestos approved landfill. Then we put some latex floor leveling compound over the spots where the tiles were missing to fill in the gaps and to seal any other loose ones down (that we didn't catch). The plywood went down over the top of that.
As long as the tiles underneath the plywood stay intact and remain undisturbed they can remain there, virtually forever, without posing a hazard. The REAL hazard comes when you try to remove the tiles! This way, they are hermetically sealed in there forever... or at least until the house is gone, at which point those tiles will probably STILL be there!
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