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Will Kutler
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From: Tucson, AZ, USA
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posted 08-07-2007 12:59 AM

I have always loved accordion, saloon/honky-tonk piano in the style of JoAnn Castle, banjo and pipe organ.

I started to learn accordion when I was a teen,but there was no-one really teaching in Tucson at that time. Now I have found that there are some major accordion clubs in bothTucson and Phoenix...and amlooking to start learning again.

Always dear to my heart has been the Cleveland/Slovenian style of Polka...its fast, nostalgic and very rhymthmic! Here is a YouTube link to a recent tribute to the great Johnny Vadnal playing his famous "Slap Happy Polka" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E07GJ2Jmh44&mode=related&search=

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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posted 08-07-2007 08:06 AM

quote: Will Kutler
I started to learn accordion when I was a teen,but there was no-one really teaching in Tucson at that time.

I knew it.... I just knew it.... he's a Gypsy! Will, The acordian died with Lawrence Welk....

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William T. Parr
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posted 08-07-2007 08:24 AM

quote: Mark Gulbrandsen
The acordian died with Lawrence Welk....

Your not familiar with Tex Mex/Tejano music then.

And just think..... This for a 666th post.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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posted 08-07-2007 10:05 AM

quote: William T. Parr
Your not familiar with Tex Mex/Tejano music then.

Yes, unfortunately! We have a large hispanic database here in SLC. Why does it sound like polka music? Can't they at least be original?

Mark

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William T. Parr
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posted 08-07-2007 11:50 AM

It sounds like Polka because Tejano is a cross between Mexican Folk Music and Texas Hill Country Music which is highly influenced by German and Polish settlers. A little more history on it can be found here Tejano Music

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Chris Slycord
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posted 08-07-2007 12:42 PM

quote: Mark Gulbrandsen
Yes, unfortunately! We have a large hispanic database here in SLC. Why does it sound like polka music? Can't they at least be original?

I noticed that when I was visiting Houston looking for an apartment. I was thinking "This sounds an awful lot like polka... but I like it a lot."

And back on topic:
I played trumpet up through High School and also have a cheap acoustic guitar I haven't practiced in way too long.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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posted 08-07-2007 12:53 PM

Never cared for Teahano music at all... probably because its forced on us by those mexicans with their car windows down. To me the stuff just sounds lame. And it all pretty much sounds the same....

Mark

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Phil Hill
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posted 08-07-2007 05:50 PM

I like Polka music and some Mexican stuff... BUTT! NOT together!

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Richard Hamilton
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posted 08-07-2007 06:23 PM

I get to play roadie for my cousins band alot. They're one of the popular bands in this area. When the bands not playing, my cousin plays solo gigs around southern Illinois, always a good time! Check em out!

Rick

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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posted 08-07-2007 07:01 PM

So Rochard.... do they play Chinese lock and loll?

Mark

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Will Kutler
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posted 08-08-2007 11:55 AM

William hit the nail on the head with his explaniation of Tejano music. When it comes to the Tejano use of accordion, they use very simple instruments in a very limited capacity....watching Tejano musicians will reveal that they really never utilize the bass side of the instrument...

Polkas really fall under three general categories:

There is the German style, noted for its huge use of the Tuba...and when people think of Polka, this is probably the main style that comes to mind. While some of it is ok, it is relatively slow and in my opinion, really drags. But German beer drinking songs can bee quite good.

Then there is the Polish/Chicago Push style...where there are Trumpets out front with Clarinet and the button accordions are usually regulated to excessive bellows-shaking. Once again, there is some really good stuff...and crap. Listning to the radio lately I found that some modern Polish style bands are comming under a large Country influence...and in my opinion, sounds terrible. Noted Polish style band leaders today include that Irish dude from New York, Jimmy Sturr and Chicago's Eddie Blazonczyk.

Then there is my favorite and in my opinion the only style...the Cleveland/Slovenian style. [Big Grin]

Consists of two accordions out front with banjo, piano, sax, drums and maybe some extra bass. There is a lot of Jazz and Swing incorporated into this style with lots of fast notes and foot stomping change-ups. In comparision to other styles, the Cleveland style really shows off the true versatility of the accordion. Everyone has heard of Frank Yankovic (no relation to Weird Al). Frank was lucky to have even played an instrument. Being a WWII "Battle of the Bulge" veteran, he almost lost both his hands and feet to frostbite. He was a great showman and promoter but a medicore accordionist who surrounded by magnificant talent like the legendary Johnny Pecon and Joey Miskulin. There is some footage of Johnny Pecon and another legend Lou Trebar on You Tubehttp:
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFKZWymFyLc

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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posted 08-08-2007 04:46 PM

quote: Will Kutler
they use very simple instruments in a very limited capacity....

I think many of us here know the REAL explanation for them using "lmiited capacity instruments"... there is something else thats also VERY limited [Eek!]

quote: Will Kutler
Then there is the Polish/Chicago Push style...

Well, at least it spawned some good Polish restaurants in Chicago's Polish neighborhoods!

quote: Will Kutler
Then there is my favorite and in my opinion the only style...the Cleveland/Slovenian style.

I wouldn't travel through Chicago making that known in too many places [uhoh]

quote: Will Kutler
who surrounded by magnificant talent like the legendary Johnny Pecon and Joey Miskulin.

Weren't these the guys that voted to impeach Jerry Seinfeld's dad in that Florida episode?

Mark

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Will Kutler
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posted 08-08-2007 08:36 PM

Johnny Pecon passed away in 1975. http://www.clevelandstyle.com/lifetimeachievement/pecon.html

And here is Joe Miskulin's bio
http://www.clevelandstyle.com/lifetimeachievement/miskulin.html

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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posted 08-08-2007 09:05 PM

So Will... this stuff orignated in Poland I assume... so what about the Polish Style of Polka?

Mark

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Will Kutler
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posted 08-12-2007 01:07 AM

Depending on the version of history the Polka has different meanings in different languages and was origionally of Czech, Bohemian or Polish origion.

You can get a sample of the various samples by listning to www.247PolkaHeaven.com Take a look at the programming schedule.

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