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Author Topic: CD prices coming down soon Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 09-11-2003 10:43 PM                        Heck, with the amount of physical memory an iPod has, they should just offer un-compressed audio.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 09-11-2003 10:49 PM                     I agree. With iPods hauling around 20GB of space, there's no problem with using uncompressed LPCM 2.0 audio. The main purpose of audio compression formats is making audio playable in very limited bandwidth environments. When storage space is ample there is little point to the compression.  |  IP: Logged Claude S. Ayakawa Film God Posts: 2738 From: Waipahu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 09-11-2003 11:12 PM                        Mike, I have been considering getting a ipod and was wondering how good is the quality of 128AAC downloads compared to CDs? Is it equal to minidiscs? If minidiscs sounds the same as downloads on a ipod , ipods is for me because I am very tired of low volume music when ever I listen to music on my Sony minidisc player. As far as I am concerned, Sony minidiscs and portable CD players suck big time when two players died on me this past year and the volume on my minidisc player is half the preferred normal volume. I am very partial to classical music and would like to know if there are a lot of music I can download for a nominal amount or for free if I get an ipod. If I get a player, I am also planning to transfer music from my extensive CD collection. -Claude  |  IP: Logged System Notices Forum Watchdog / Soup Nazi Posts: 215 Registered: Apr 2004 posted 12-29-2004 12:47 PM                 It has been 474 days since the last post.  |  IP: Logged Edward Jurich Master Film Handler Posts: 305 From: Las Vegas USA Registered: Jul 2003 posted 12-29-2004 12:47 PM                     I could be wrong but, shopping at Walmart for Christmas, it looks like CD's cost more than ever. And a recent purchase of a CD I found will not play in my computer. I don't know if they (the music industry) think blocking CD's from playing in computers will stop copying when all you need to do is run a CD player into your audio card input and copy all you want.  |  IP: Logged Mike Olpin Chop Chop! Posts: 1852 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Jan 2002 posted 12-29-2004 12:55 PM                     Claude, In answer to your 474 day old post which I didn't see until now, I don't know. I've never used mini-disk extensively enought o be able to compare it to anything else. If there is an album from an artist I really like or want to criticaly listen to, I buy the full quality CD. iTunes just satisfys my impulse for al-la-carte tracks I hear on the radio. Still lovin my iPod (It did take a dump a few monthe ago, but I was able to repair it myself.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-29-2004 01:37 PM                        quote: Edward Jurich I could be wrong but, shopping at Walmart for Christmas, it looks like CD's cost more than ever. That could be Wal-Mart's doing. According to a newspaper article I read today, they planned to "not be as agressive" with discounting during this holiday season. Their reward was less stellar sales than expected. As for CD prices, the Universal labels still have lower prices than the other labels due to a program they instituted about a year ago in which mainstream albums carry a list price of $12.95, with superstar releases at $13.95. The street price of these albums is usually around $10 to $12. The other labels are still at the $18.98 list price which is usually available in stores at $14 or less (sometimes MUCH less!). Prices have stayed about the same across the board, while more and more 'extra' goodies like DVDs and such have been included with many releases.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 12-30-2004 01:10 AM                     quote: Edward Jurich And a recent purchase of a CD I found will not play in my computer. Yeah, the music industry has been getting a lot more aggressive and savvy about copy protection schemes on standard "Red Book" CDs. A growing number of them (mainly lots of rap CDs) won't load at all in a standard PC. Others have nice little gotchas that happen when you try to copy them. For example, I tried to dub a copy of my Velvet Revolver CD for a friend, but the dubbed CD wound up with audio scrambled up in a very random manner. Still, copy protection or not, the CDs have to at least be worth a listen much less a purchase. I bought the Velvet Revolver CD, but the friend who wanted a dub decided she could live without it. Most of my music purchases tend to happen on DVD now anyway. The latest: Peter Gabriel's music video collection --in DD 5.1 and DTS 5.1/24-96 no less (and with more songs than were featured on the "Shaking The Tree" greatest hits CD).  |  IP: Logged Barry Martin Expert Film Handler Posts: 203 From: Newington, CT USA Registered: Jul 2002 posted 12-30-2004 01:31 AM                        I've always been told it is acceptable to make a copy for "backup" purposes, thus is it legal to not allow copying? And what about straight CD burners such as you would have installed in a Home Theater setup rather than a PC? Very stupid  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 12-30-2004 08:10 AM                        A few points: A "red book" CD cannot be copy protected. Copy-protected disks are just that--round, shiny disks which contain recorded music and which happen to play in most CD players. That doesn't make them CDs, and they cannot carry the "Compact Disc" trademark. So says Phillips (who owns the trademark rights). Most computer CD drives, older CD players, and some car CD players cannot play these "copy protected" disks. If anyone buys one of these, I _strongly_ recommend returning it to the store as defective (it is), unless there is some notation about the "copy protection" on the outer packaging. Note that these can still be copied (digitally, even) by using a CD player with an AES/EBU digital output (which doesn't pass SCMS information) and a CD burner with an AES/EBU digital input. The burned copy can then be copied at will and will also play in all types of CD players (as long as they play CD-Rs). While it _is_ legal in the US to make copies of copyrighted material under certain circumstances (e.g. "fair use" and the provisions outlined in the "Audio Home Recording Act"), it is illegal (under the Digital Millenium Copyright Act--a truly horrible piece of legislation) to defeat most copy-protection schemes in attempt to excercise one's legal rights to copy the material. (side note: according to the wording in the DMCA, it is technically illegal to listen to FM stereo broadcasts!) Disclaimer: I'm _not_ a lawyer, nor do I play one on TV. I do not advocate piracy of any type, but I also don't consider burning copies of one's own CDs (or vinyl) for playback in a car or portable player to be piracy. Nor do I understand why the RIAA and friends think it's a crime to copy one's own recordings to digital playback devices or to make compilation CDs of one's favorite songs. I should also point out that, historically, copy-protection schemes have only been effective against "casual" piracy, but are not effective at all against large-scale commercial pirates (which are what actually do cause lost sales).  |  IP: Logged Aaron Sisemore Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day! Posts: 3061 From: Rockwall TX USA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 12-30-2004 10:27 AM                     quote: I've always been told it is acceptable to make a copy for "backup" purposes, thus is it legal to not allow copying? And what about straight CD burners such as you would have installed in a Home Theater setup rather than a PC? Very stupid [thumbsdown] The 'stand alone' home component CD burners REQUIRE the use of 'audio' CD-R media to function. These CD-R's cost more than standard computer CD-R discs... Why? Because they add a royalty tax as a token 'payment' to the record labels as they assume one will be doing nothing but 'piracy' with the device. That's why the standalone CD burners haven't been banned out of the marketplace... yet. -Aaron  |  IP: Logged Mitchell Dvoskin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1869 From: West Milford, NJ, USA Registered: Jan 2001 posted 12-30-2004 11:03 AM                     Stand alone CD recorders that do not require these overpriced special blanks are readily available in "Musician Equipment" stores. They function exactly the same as the consumer ones, but use the cheaper computer discs and give you more input types.  |  IP: Logged William Hooper Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1879 From: Mobile, AL USA Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-03-2005 01:57 AM                        Ed, when did you start smoking? You're going to put that little dog's eye out with that cigar!  |  IP: Logged Carl Martin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1424 From: Oakland, CA, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 01-04-2005 05:03 AM                        or vice versa!  |  IP: Logged

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