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Author Topic: Idiot Kicks Dog Like A Football Roger Katz Film Handler Posts: 61 From: Thomaston, CT, USA Registered: Feb 2003 posted 04-08-2004 10:25 PM                     They don't keep it out door 24/7, but they do let it in and out repeatedly every hour. I've tried calling the police, but my neighbor is a police officer, so I'm sure they just laugh at me.  |  IP: Logged Pravin Ratnam Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 844 From: Atlanta, GA,USA Registered: Sep 2002 posted 04-08-2004 10:49 PM                     I am with Thomas P on this. I laughed too when I read it before I read the part where the dog died. At that point, the absurdity sunk in. Not that I would have condoned it if the dog stayed alive. But the description leading up to it seemed so absurd and retarded that I just started laughing. As much as I delpore this incident, I disagree with Bobby, that someone capable of doing whatever to a cat would do it to a human. Some people are good at separating humans from animals. It may be a common factor for serial killers, but not everyone who has those feelings have a tendency to become a serial killer.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 04-08-2004 10:55 PM                     Rodger Said "The dog probably deserved it. I'd kill my neighbor's dog in an instant if I knew I could get away with it." Rodger, Thats about as immature a comment as I've ever seen posted on this site. Its not the dogs fault, Its your own fault for not dealing with the owner in a prompt and legal way. You could make his life very miserable with a nice lawsuit....that would be the right thing to do. As for the Yorkie, I also agree that the person should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law available. Mark  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 04-08-2004 11:51 PM                     quote: Some people are good at separating humans from animals. It may be a common factor for serial killers, but not everyone who has those feelings have a tendency to become a serial killer. Someone willing to kill an animal just for some goofy fun is not very "human" in the first place. That's a big character flaw. The person may not necessarily be serial killer material (although the links John Pytlak provided underscore the very real chance the guy is a sociopath). But it is still despicable behavior. I would not associate at all with such a person, much less put any trust in him at all around kids, animals or anyone else.  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 04-08-2004 11:57 PM                     A barking dog is only doing its job. (Assuming it is reasonably well trained.) The reason we have dogs is because they make good organic burglar alarms. All you have to do is feed it, pet it and give it a warm bed to sleep in. It will bark when anybody comes near the house to warn you. After a while, you learn the difference between an ordinary "greeting bark" and a "stranger bark". The dog learns to "shush" when you give the command. Untrained or poorly behaved dogs are another matter. However, it's not necessarily the dog's fault. It's the master's fault. The dog is only following its instinct. It is the human who is responsible for training the dog to react the right way. It is the human who should be responsible if the dog disturbs the peace. I once had a neighbor who let his yappy, little dog out every morning at 7:00 AM. I got fed up with it and took matters into my own hands: One day, at about 6:45 AM I took out a crow call, opened my window and started calling crows. In about 90 seconds, every crow within a mile's radius had descended on my apartment building, making all kinds of noise. The neighbor with the yappy dog came out and started yelling, "What the hell is going on!?" I told him, "I'm calling crows." When he told me to stop making so much racket, I told him I would stop calling crows if he would keep the dog from barking. I never heard another peep out of that dog!  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 04-09-2004 01:55 AM                  Mark, I agree. I think Tom and Roger should get married since they seem to be "meant" for eachother... >>> Phil  |  IP: Logged Pravin Ratnam Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 844 From: Atlanta, GA,USA Registered: Sep 2002 posted 04-09-2004 02:15 AM                     quote: Someone willing to kill an animal just for some goofy fun is not very "human" in the first place. That's a big character flaw. Well, i wasn't referring to this incident. But I have seen a guy kick an annoying cat(though not like football). While I don't condone it, I won't classify him as someone predisposed to be a serial killer. The guy in this newsstory, however, looks like a sicko.  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 04-09-2004 02:37 AM                       On the topic of animal sports equipment. In my bachelor days, I had a roomate who took a broom to a cat - baseball bat style - and batted it from our second floor balcony, across the parking lot, to the basement level driveway below! I remembered screaming at him when I saw what he was going to do, but it was too late. The cat landed on its feet (of course) with a thunk, and remained motionless for a few moments, then scurried away. At first, I thought he'd killed it. I was incredulous. As much as I hate cats, I would never have done that. I might have put tape on its feet, but...  |  IP: Logged Bruce McGee Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1776 From: Asheville, NC USA... Nowhere in Particular. Registered: Aug 1999 posted 04-09-2004 07:18 AM                     Had a cat that lived 19 years. Last week, I rescued a 10 month old Dachshund puppy from an owner who had kicked the pup not once, but FOUR times. I kept the dog for a week, watching her cringe every time anyone reached out to pet her. She went to a new, and permanant home on Wednesday, 4/7. People that hurt defenseless animals should be neutered.  |  IP: Logged William Leland III Master Film Handler Posts: 336 From: Charleston, SC, Registered: Aug 2002 posted 04-09-2004 09:08 AM                        Bruce just for you : "This is Bob Barker reminding you to have your hillbilly spayed or neutered!"  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 04-09-2004 09:48 AM                       HAAAAAAHAHAhahahaha! That's funny!  |  IP: Logged Evans A Criswell Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1579 From: Huntsville, AL, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 04-09-2004 10:05 AM                        I think the key to resisting the urge to be mean to a dog or cat that's annoying you is to think of it not as a "thing", but a living being that has feelings and needs. I was raised out in the country and where I lived at the time, a lot of people would mistreat stray animals that came on their property. If an animal came up, it was common to throw rocks at it to run it off. Kicking stray unwanted animals off the porch was common. If someone hit an animal, many people just kept going. I never heard of any law enforcement getting involved in animal cruelty cases back then in that area. Of course, people had more land and more privacy, so lots of things could happen on people's property that others didn't know about. When I moved to Huntsville, I was amazed at the difference in psychology concerning animals. I don't think I've ever seen anyone be mean to an animal in the 16 years I've been here. Most people have an animal living in their house, and put a lot of effort into caring for them. I had one friend that had six cats in his house, and he loved and cared for every one of them. Cruelty to animals has become an offense that is worse than being cruel to a person. Anyone is nuts to be cruel to an animal in today's society. Some people seem to value animals more than people. There are people that will wreck their car and injure or kill people in the process to avoid hitting an animal on the road. I value people's lives more than animals' lives, but I don't believe in mistreating cats and dogs.  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 04-09-2004 10:55 AM                       Well said, Evans.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 04-09-2004 12:13 PM                     Most people will not put the value of an animal's life ahead of another person. This is a factor which is, quite frankly, totally irrelevant to animal cruelty. There are some who try to pose this view as a justification of committing various acts of cruelty and neglect on animals. I charge their argument as a "strawman" or just plain bullshit. People should be outraged when someone is cruel to an animal. Why? Just like children, domestic animals (be it a pet dog, cat, pig, whatever) automatically put a great deal of trust in us. They have a certain kind of innocence about them that comes with that trust and vulnerability. To be cruel to dog or cat is to be a f**king sadistic pervert. There's no other way around it and I am 100% right to be that judgmental on it. Anyone who gets their kicks doing cruel things to animals is a damned nut job who should be under some strict psychiatric supervision.  |  IP: Logged Evans A Criswell Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1579 From: Huntsville, AL, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 04-09-2004 01:16 PM                        Yes, and for the record, I was not in any way saying that one should commit any act of cruelty toward pet type animals regardless of whatever method of justification. You're right that a [pet] animal develops a trust toward people, since it typically depends on a person to take care of it. One an animal gets in the habit of depending on a person to feed it, it's dependant on people from then on. Most animals in cities that live in people's houses are like that. Once someone domesticates an animal and makes it depend on them for survival, it adds a level of responsibility, since the animal is not likely to be as able to survive without a person taking care of it. Many people declaw cats, and once that's done, the cat will not be able to survive outside a home environment. I can tell a big difference in my attitude toward animals as compared to 20 years ago. If I had the time to care for one and were at my house more, I wouldn't mind having a cat or dog. I know that pets can become best friends and it's been proven that people with pets often live longer because having the animal is like having a friend, and it reduces stress.  |  IP: Logged

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