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Mark Gulbrandsen
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"Cruelty to animals has become an offense that is worse than being cruel to a person. Anyone is nuts to be cruel to an animal in today's society. Some people seem to value animals more than people. There are people that will wreck their car and injure or kill people in the process to avoid hitting an animal on the road."

Very well put Evans... I am one of those people that value animals far more then most of the people I know. I would also zig or zag to avoid hitting one. Animals, unless they are larger than you, are for the most part completely helpless. Even then they sometimes depend on us for food and shelter to survive. A good example is the Polar Bear, which may be extinct in 50 to 100 years if left to fend for itself.... they're now all barely hanging in balance with the global warming situation.

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Bruce McGee
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 - posted 04-09-2004 07:14 PM      Profile for Bruce McGee   Email Bruce McGee   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Has Bob Barker been neutered?

Anyway, I'd rather be a hillbilly anyway. Now, where's Gummi Sue with my vittles?

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Thomas Procyk
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 - posted 04-14-2004 02:30 PM      Profile for Thomas Procyk   Email Thomas Procyk   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
An interesting question would be if the dog approached the murderers, or they went after it to kick it. The story doesn't say. And it probably won't since the media is notorious about not following up on stuff.

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I think the key to resisting the urge to be mean to a dog or cat that's annoying you is to think of it not as a "thing", but a living being that has feelings and needs.
That's where the distinction between cruelty and survival of the fittest comes in. As much as people hate to admit, humans are nothing more than animals as well. Smarter, stronger, more sophisticated animals, but we're still animals. We just choose to justify our instincts with reason.

If an animal feels a threat from another, whether it be the threat of injury or mental anguish due to the other animal making an incessent, unnecessary noise, instinct kicks in (no pun intended) and the animal acts. If I felt threatened by a dog barking and running up to me as I walked to my car(and I'm scurred of dogs) you bet your ass I would smash my shoe in its face.

However, I doubt that was the case with this little, 2-pound dog. Chalk it up to the animals/humans killing for pleasure, I guess. But cats do that too. It's all instinct. Turn on the TV and you'll see humans kill EACH OTHER for pleasure all the time.

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Bobby Henderson
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One of the newspaper articles about this incident said the small dog was known for being friendly to unfamiliar people in hopes of getting some treats. And that's all the more reason to consider the men who killed this dog as sadistic perverts.

Some people bristle at the idea of people who seem to place more value on the life of an animal than another person. That's only because human beings have so many selfish, cruel and dishonest capabilities.

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Bobby Henderson
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Here's another animal related thing. I'm not sure if this really belongs in another thread. It does bring up the one area where I do regard animals with suspicion: vicious dogs.

There's a good number of people killed every year from being mauled to death by a vicious dog, typically with the dog being a pit bull. An 8 year old boy was mauled to death (either today or yesterday) by his father's four pit bulls. Here's the story from the Associated Press:

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CHARLOTTE, North Carolina (AP) -- An 8-year-old boy was mauled to death by his father's four pit bulls, and prosecutors were considering charges against the father ranging from child neglect to murder.

Roddie Philip Dumas Jr. was attacked in the fenced-in yard of his father's home Friday. Neighbors and a postal worker who heard the boy's screams rushed to the scene.

The boy's father, Roddie Philip Dumas Sr., 29, and his girlfriend, were inside the house but did not come outside until the dogs had already severely injured the boy, officials said.

"One had him on his neck. Two had him on the side. And one had him on the leg," said Edward Threatt, a neighbor. "They were pulling on him just like you do a rag doll."

A letter carrier threw his mailbag and then a wooden block at the dogs, which then ran away, Threatt said. But neighbors and police said the father then came outside and told the letter carrier to get off his property.

The boy was taken to a hospital, where he died.

After searching Dumas' home, police charged him with drug and firearms felonies.

Prosecutors were considering additional charges ranging from child neglect to murder, although a murder charge is rare in such cases. Police said they want to find out why the boy was unsupervised and whether the adults in the house heard him cry for help.

Dumas was in jail Saturday on a $233,000 bond. A message at the jail referred callers to a Web site and it was unclear whether Dumas had legal representation.

Animal control officers seized the four dogs. It was not clear whether the dogs have a history of violent behavior.

More and more, this "culture" of having vicious dogs often shows the same, scumbag traits in the dog owners. Many of these pit bull owners are either inner city black gang-banger wannabes or white trash, toothless hillbilly, gun-toting crank dealers. There's a kind of "I'm the man" bragging and violent paranoia that seems to go hand in hand with many of these dog owners. That's just something I think any responsible human being needs to think about before running out and buying a dog that doubles as body armor and eats kids or elderly people.

It's no surprise the dead boy's father got busted on illegal drugs and weapons charges. I doubt if the Charlotte, NC district attorney's office will be able to make a murder charge stick. But if there was any justice in the world, that bastard would be castrated so he could not have any more kids and would be banned from ever owning an animal again. Needless to say, the four dogs will probably be destroyed, all thanks to that asshole guy.

Sure, there are pit bulls that are nice and lovable dogs. But it seems more and more rare to find them. Animal experts liken the responsibility of owning such a dog with the greater responsibility of caring for other dangerous animals, such as a wolf or mountain lion. I tell you, the really sick thing is that a bunch of guys in America will hear about the death of this 8-year old boy and that will actually make them want to own a pit bull even more. F**king perverts.

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Brad Miller
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People like this shouldn't even be allowed to have kids. The thing about that story that irks me (besides his kid dying obviously) is the fact that he told the postal worker who was trying to help to get off of his property.

BTW, there appears to be a typo in the AP article. The correct spelling is Roddie Philip Dumbass Sr.

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Leo Enticknap
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I doubt if the Charlotte, NC district attorney's office will be able to make a murder charge stick.
To prove murder here you need to prove intent to kill; even gross, utter jaw-dropping negligent stupidity isn't enough. From what little I know of US law, I'd hazard a guess that the same applies in this case.

I hope, though, that NC has an offence along the lines of 'aggravated manslaughter' - i.e. something that recognises an act which is so negligent, reckless and/or moronic that a sentence way above that of a normal manslaughter conviction should be imposed.

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Bruce McGee
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This story sounds fishy. Makes me think that the parents were up to something. Wonder why they waited so long to come out?

I am not toothless, but I know people that own Pits. Some of them are scary to be around, but 2 that I can think of are angels. It's all in the care and feeding. The two are a part of the family, not living on a chain outside. I just couldn't do that to an animal.

There are several homes around mine that have a dog chained up in the yard. The dogs bark at anything that moves. The one next door gets fed every morning, and no other attention. I think it's sad, and pet the dog often. He stopped barking at me after about 2 minutes.

I have several cats. My house is not set-up to be a proper dog-home. Film and such everywhere...

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Pravin Ratnam
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I think the father could be charged with aiding or abetting or similar charge because he prevented someone from helping the child when he threatened that postal worker.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Am watching Animal Police on Animal Planet right now. These guys kick butt and are seriously needed in many more communities. Let your dog starve to death in Michigan and you get 4 years in prison for it.... I can't imagine what they'd do to you if you used your dog like a football.

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