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Ken Layton
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 - posted 04-12-2004 01:14 AM      Profile for Ken Layton   Email Ken Layton   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
There is nothing worth watching on tv nowadays. Everybody and their brother is pushing this HDTV, widescreen tv, digital tv crap instead of concentrating on original creative programming (like Family Guy!).

Come on networks----a wide screen picture is no substitute for a good story and good acting.

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Daniel Fuentz
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How can you guys say there's nothing good on network TV when Life With Bonnie is going into it's THIRD exciting season! (I really, really find that show to be the most UNfunny thing on TV.. Maybe it's a drama being mismarketed as a comedy?)

Seriously, I rarely watch anything on TV anymore. The old shows I used to watch have gotten really stale and boring, and any new show I like will get cancelled after a couple episodes so it's not worth investing any time in something new, either. (Of course, when I'm at work I HAVE to monitor whatever's on -- sometimes I wish there was a channel changing feature on those control room monitors!)

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Peter Kerchinsky
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Network TV sucks and never watch it. Those damn commercials go on forever, to the point where I used to forget what I was watching. No more.
I have digital cable and watch Turner Classic Movies alot, CNN, MSNBC, Discovery and History Channel.
In fact when I get through posting this AM, I'm going to turn on MSNBC and watch Don Imus. He's a grumpy ol' bastard, somewhat like me, and says what's on his mind. Only problem with his show, in brief, is those damn commercials go on and on so sometimes I forget what I'm watching. But, it's 3am here and I've worked all day.
Good night all.

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Christopher Duvall
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Does nobody here watch Chappelle Show? It is probably the funniest thing on TV now...

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Jeremy Fuentes
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quote:
Does nobody here watch Chappelle Show? It is probably the funniest thing on TV now...

I was wondering if anybody was going to include this show. It is, in my mind, the funniest thing on TV in a long time. Other than this, I watch the NBA, The Man Show, Seinfeld reruns, My Wife and Kids, and the news.

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Bruce McGee
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 - posted 04-12-2004 06:42 AM      Profile for Bruce McGee   Email Bruce McGee   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I grew up with 3 networks. Also, in addition to the network fodder, the local stations each played alot of syndicated stuff in the afternoons: 1950's comedies, "The Life Of Reilly," I Married Joan," etc. "Donahue" was one of the first non-sitcoms that I remember seeing. Now, its Oprah, and the list goes down from there. Rikki Lake, Maury, Montel Williams. From 5pm to 6:30, all of the local network stations run news news news. Basically, they repeat the news twice, then at 6, they give us the best version, which is not much.

Here, the locals run nothing but stuff like The Ellen DeGeneres show, which is good sometime, then the soaps start. Wow. Look at the sex! After the soaps. Jerry Springer, etc. More sex and fighting, cursing, beep sounds, and digitally blurring of the lips of the 'guests' when they say one of those dirty words that we are not allowed to hear, but do all the time. Prime Time is more violence, and sex. See a pattern here?

There is no good clean entertainment, and almost no movies shown anymore. No Creature Features!

WHY?

I dropped CABLE and went to Satellite in 1995 after CABLE (UA cable) pissed me off. I dropped the SATELLITE when I noticed that I was not watching anything anymore. After a steady diet of TV from 1957-on, I feel that I have successfully weaned myself from having to have the TV turned on 18 hours a day.

Now I have the internet. [evil]

What do I watch? Lots of DVD's.

Dont get me wrong. I like sex, just not all the time.

Dont get me started on the logos on the screen. Aaraugh!

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Jennifer Pan
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I just don't really watch TV at all. I might catch part of a movie or a show as I'm surfing channels but I always end up just not watching TV.

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Jeremy Fuentes
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I just don't really watch TV at all. I might catch part of a movie or a show as I'm surfing channels but I always end up just not watching TV.

So, what do you do then?

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Bruce Hansen
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What ever happened to "Futurama" on FOX? That was one of the VERY few showes that I enjoy (just my weird sence of humor, I guess). Reality showes have nothing to do with reality, but they are cheep to make, I find them dumb, and worthless.

I was at a SMPTE meeting some years ago, when HDTV was still being talked about. The topic came up, if the networks send compressed video to the local stations, it would make it hard to insert local logos. I made a comment saying that viewers have said they hated the logos, and maybe it's time to get rid of them. I was promtly told that you have got to have "branding".

I believe it is the managment-moron types at the networks, that only care about profits, who are putting on the cheepest crap they can come up with. Only people are turning it off, so their profits are going down, and they are just too stupid, and removed from reality, to figure the whole thing out.

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Jennifer Pan
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Jeremy: I go to school, hangout with friends, work, chat on AIM and surf the web.

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Dave Williams
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 - posted 04-12-2004 09:25 PM      Profile for Dave Williams   Author's Homepage   Email Dave Williams   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
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What ever happened to "Futurama" on FOX? That was one of the VERY few showes that I enjoy
Sadly, Futurama fell victim to a misunderstanding between the series producers and the network programmers.

What happened is that as work completed on season five, no contract existed for a sixth season or beyond. Instead of signing a new one with the series to continue work, the network instead decided that since they had put it in an unstable time slot that was repeatedly preempted by football, that they actually had nearly two years of episodes to show at that time.

So the network big wigs decided not to pay out for new episodes at that time. Instead, reruns went to cartoon network and had great ratings, and that intensified the ratings on the new episodes on first run fox.

When the last of the episodes were coming to a close, the network approached the producers and creators of Futurama about another season. This could not happen.

You see, it takes a LONG time to write, animate, and voice a cartoon. IT is a long process. While they were not against the idea, the main problem is that the ENTIRE staff of writers and CGI artists (half the image is computer animated, half is drawn), had all contract work elsewhere, and an entire new staff had to be hired, a process that could take up to two or three years to complete for a show of this magnitude.

In essence, it was impossible. So the show aired its final episode and that was it.

Well however there is a movie in preproduction. They are working on a script and are trying to get as many of thier original writers and artists back (this can be done for a movie deal as it does not interfere with other contractual obligations as per union rules).

So be not for fear, Futurama in less than three years will be here, ON THE BIG SCREEN... CUZ NETWORK TV IS A BITCH, and it sucks.

Ciao

dave

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Roger Katz
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All the best shows get canceled in their first season because networks don't give them time to gather an audience: Freaks And Geeks, Push Nevada, Wonderfalls, etc. Two other shows I like The Practice and Kingdom Hospital are just playing out their few remaining episodes. About the only thing left is The Simpsons.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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"Come on networks----a wide screen picture is no substitute for a good story and good acting. "

Ken, I really dont think that the shape of the screen and how many lines or pixels its made up of affects the program content at all. You just seem to be anti HDTV for some reason. Actually in television two completely differing departments make up engineering and programming. Take PBS for example....they do more HDTV programming than just about all the networks combined and they do a really good job with it. Many of the shows are film originated and look great! As for networks and HDTV, at least we have Jay Leno in HD.... Its pretty neat to watch him that way. HDTV is really cool and I've been fortunate to watch it develop from its infancy. Here in SLC we have something like 13 DTV channels of which at least a third are broadcasting HDTV failry regularly. Then there is always Satellite HDTV and all the usual films, etc. There was also a travel show that was broadcast by PBS for a while and watching that show in HD is a knockout.
I watch the 9/11 movie last night and what a stupid ending! The commercials WERE actually MORE entertaining and informing than the movie was.....
Now if the networks could just come up with some good ole old fashioned decent programming to keep our attention.

Mark

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Josh Jones
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I guess I really dont need to tell you guys what I watch, the sig says it all.

Speed TV two wheel tuesday Tuesdays 7:00-8:00P

Spike TV inside motorcycling Sat. 9:00-9:30A
"""""""" motoworld sat. 10:30-11:00A

Thats about it. I try to catch the occasional racing as well.

If I had digisat, I think I'd watch

Fuse TV (the less sitcom version of MTV)
Fuel (extreme sports......and stuff)

Thats about all I'd watch. Still not worth $40 a month.

Josh

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Jesse Skeen
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PBS doesn't put logos on its national feed (yet, anyways) but our local stations in both Sacramento and San Francisco make up for that by sticking their own station logos on instead. I've seen our local PBS digital channel and they have "KVIE-DT" in the corner, should you not know you were watching a digital station. My mom and dad were "members" for a while but cancelled after they put their logo up full-time, and then got nothing but cryptic responses when they asked it be taken off. (I think they actually only run it during prime time but that's still unacceptable, and I've never seen them turn it off on the HD station which makes the whole thing pointless.)
Scary the number of people who don't differentiate cable channels from regular TV- at least the price of getting them ought to remind them. BTW last time I saw the Playboy Channel they actually had the rabbit-head logo in the lower-right during all programming!

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