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Scott D. Neff
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While I wish I had the guts to go into abandoned theatres with bad latching doors, I do not.

So many times during a Cinematour trip I'll pull a door and it'll open and I freak out... what do I say to the cops should they arrive? I've figured out one thing that might work, especially if it's the front door that's not latched properly.

"I was just driving by and noticed the theatre was closed, the door was unlocked so I figured the landlord must be in here somewhere. I wanted to talk to him about the theatre." It makes good sense, and I wouldn't be lying.

But Danny is right, a lot of old theatres do provide housing for bums/the old projectionists. If a back door looks like it's been forced open, I refuse to go inside.

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Carl Martin
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the guts award goes to roger for sneaking into a theater on the day of demolition. [Eek!]

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Dan Lyons
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quote: Scott D. Neff
a lot of old theatres do provide housing for bums/the old projectionists.
that's a good one. [thumbsup]

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William Hooper
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quote: Carl Martin
the guts award goes to roger for sneaking into a theater on the day of demolition.
Too many theatre organ & theater souvenir geeks have done that to pay for all those trophies! Dick Loderhose pulling out as many pieces of the NYC Roxy organ as he could while the building was being demolished is the first one that comes to mind.

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Jeff Stuckey
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Thanks for all your great responses. I would agree that it's quite possible people were living inside the Woodland 6, especially since the door was wide open. Guess they would need a way in an out. I am still just rather curious since it's a theater I know extremely well. One thing I probably forgot to mention in my original post...the front glass part of the theatre was boarded shut. Meaning someone would have to have a flashlight and a set of brass you-know-whats to attempt this one.

I am going to try and attach a couple of my pictures from the visit on this message. I didn't take a picture of the open door, but it is on the right side in the alley. Here goes...

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Brandon Willis
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Here's a nice looking abandoned theatre in Petersburg. The Crater Cinemas 8. Opened by Neighborhood Theatres in the 80s, closed by Regal in 2001. I've never been there. This picture is from the Morton G. Thalhimer real estate website.

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Does anyone have a theatre in their area that is commonly believed to be the "ghetto theatre?" Any stories?

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Daryl C. W. O'Shea
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That is one ugly theatre building exterior!

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Scott D. Neff
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Man I love those old CINEMA signs.

I would love to operate/manage an old theatre with one of those signs. Just because it means it was built at the time where architects said "Yup... 4 walls and 800 seats, that's all ya need!"

As far as ghetto theatres, I used to manage the one here in Petaluma, but it went out of business and was demolished a few years back. Now that my world has grown to the greater San Francisco Bay Area, if I had to pick the WORST theatre to see a movie in, it would be Landmark's Opera Plaza in San Francisco... they're nice people who work there, but OMG the auditoriums are rediculously small, and the ceilings are low.

I could go on and on about a few other silly theatres, but I have to go to work now.

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Dan Lyons
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quote: Scott D. Neff
Man I love those old CINEMA signs.

I would love to operate/manage an old theatre with one of those signs

Me too! [thumbsup]
Move down here and re-open the CINEMA 1,2!! [Big Grin]

danny

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Brandon Willis
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My theatre is the ghetto theatre of Richmond.

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JC Cowles
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I think the old Burnsville General Cinema 8 has been lying dormant since about 1995. I haven't gone in there, but my old GCC manager who used to run the place said they riped out everything that had any value and trashed the rest of it. And I mean trashed as in on purpose--like sledge hammers to the concession stands. Its the only remaining General Cinema labeled theatre that I'm aware of anymore.

Theatre property is so hard to sell. Demo costs are outrageous, its much cheaper to buy or lease an empty lot. And the buildings aren't good for anything but theatres with their large concrete walls and sloped floors.

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Brandon Willis
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Quite a few closed theatres in my area are churches now. Like the Midlothian 6 and the Westover. I've also heard of colleges buying or leasing them to use as lecture rooms.

While not entirely related to theatres, here is a cool website about empty or almost empty malls:
Dead Malls.com

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Richard C. Wolfe
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I guess I'm surely showing my age by this post, but I always have to laugh to myself when I see you folks talking about OLD theatres from the 70s, 80s or even 90s.

I never think of any theatre as being old unless it was built in the pre TV days. All the really great theatres were built during the 20s & 30s, a few decent ones during the 40s and early 50s, but by the mid 50s theatre construction due to TV virtually came to a hault. It wasn't until the mid 60s that theatre constuction resumed at a rapid pace once again and those were still single screens, usually with 800 to 1200 seats on one floor. They generally had large screens with curtains, magnetic stereo sound and some were even 70mm. However, beyound being large and comfortable and having a good presentation, there was nothing else memorable or pleasing about them. They were sterile, boxy, and architecturally unattractive, often with painted concrete block walls. The theatres that came after them, the twins and triplets of the early 70s were even worse, just as ugly but with much smaller auditoriums usually with one isle down the center, and no curtains. Throughout the late 70s, the 80s, and the early 90s nothing got better, except for Dolby stereo sound, as only the number of auditoriums increased. By the mid 90s the stadium theatres started to return (yes they had built stadium theatres in both the 20s and the 40s) and things started to improve.

Today there are once again many well designed and attractive multiplex theatres, but they are seldem maintained after their opening, poorly managed and often have terrible projection and sound presentation. That's sad because that is due only to a lack of caring on the part of the owners or staff.

When I mentioned the theatres of the 60s having 800 to 1000 seats I'm sure many of you though that they were quite large. Compared to today they were, but I remember working in one as an usher and people coming in and often remarking about how small it was. It was the only new theatre in town at that time and all the other first run downtown theatres had from 1800 to 3000 seats.

As to the topic at hand, I have been in probably somewhere between 50 to 75 abandoned theatres. All old single screens. I wouldn't waste my time going into a closed multuplex as there wouldn't be anything worth seeing. I might as well go into closed K-marts as they wouldn't look much different.

I have always found it's best to go well dressed, take a camera, my membership cards to both the Theatre Historical Society, and The League of Historic American Theatres. Sure I might get some good clothes a little dirty, but I don't look like a scavenger, rather someone who looks as though they have a reason to be there.

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Mike Heenan
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I think it's highly unlikely there's alot of abandoned theaters from the 20s and 30s still standing, that haven't been converted to something else. I think people are talking more about the theaters of the 60s though the 80s, etc, because they are still around and still standing empty.

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Dan Lyons
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quote: Richard C. Wolfe
It wasn't until the mid 60s that theatre constuction resumed at a rapid pace once again and those were still single screens, usually with 800 to 1200 seats on one floor. They generally had large screens with curtains, magnetic stereo sound and some were even 70mm. However, beyound being large and comfortable and having a good presentation, there was nothing else memorable or pleasing about them. They were sterile, boxy, and architecturally unattractive, often with painted concrete block walls
Sounds like you've never experienced a CINEDOME! I really miss the one around here; last thing i saw was EVITA on opening day, great sound! HERE was the place..

danny

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