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Leo Enticknap
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quote: Bobby Henderson
My "insurance" doesn't pay for shit when it comes to things like preventative health care. It seems like the hospitals want everyone to have serious medical events that way the patient can go broke and the hospital can seize the patient's house and other assets. Gotta pay for that Mercedes one way or another.
Surely it's in the insurance companies' interests to encourage preventative health care, so that they're not having to pay out for expensive 'reactive' treatments all the time and can therefore offer more competetive premiums to their customers? Car insurers, for example, will offer discounts if you fit an alarm, keep your vehicle in a garage overnight or take an advanced driving qualification, for example. Surely it would make sense for medical insurers to work along similar lines?

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If I have a Coke I don't feel good.
Of the carbonated liquid variety, I hope!

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Bobby Henderson
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Yes, it would be more logical for an insurance company to cover things like physicals and other basic, preventative forms of medical care. It certainly would cut down on the bigger claims. But they can't even manage that. Basically, they want to collect those overly expensive premiums and not provide any service in return. Most insurance companies and HMOs especially seem to care more about how their stock prices are doing from one quarter to the next than anything else.

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Jon Miller
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Jennifer Pan wrote...
quote: Jennifer Pan
It's so great to get my blood taken. [Eek!] (supposedly my blood runs fast so the deed was done quick)
So how do you like your blood drawn? Sitting up or laying down? [Smile]

I had an interesting blood-test experience about ten years ago, getting blood drawn both sitting up and laying down, and in both arms [Eek!] . That day I was ushered into the blood-drawing room and shown the chair. As much as I despise blood tests (and needles in general), I prefer it being done laying down; this time I thought I had no choice but to take it seated. So I took my seat and the nurse proceeded to do the deed on my left arm...after about three drops of blood filled the vial, the vein collapsed and the flow petered out. Since the (attractive) nurse said she'd have to try again, I suggested having it done laying down, although I was not exactly looking forward to it (the second blood test attempt, that is [Smile] ).

As I was led out of the blood drawing room and into an examination room, I passed out on the floor. Awakening from the fainting episode, two nurses -- the original nurse and her equally attractive colleague -- helped me up and got me into the exam room and, from my right arm, finally got my body to part with two vials' worth of that red elixir of life.

To this day I kick myself for not seizing the opportunity and gaining a significant other from the medical profession. [Smile] [Frown] .

Come to think of it, I have to submit for a blood test next week. Nowadays, the technicians are male. Oh, well...

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Dominic Espinosa
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Chris is pretty much right. When you take decent care of your health your body can handle a lot of things. The immunse system is excellent. To aid you can also take many herbal supplements that are just as effective at combating the problem, cheaper, and better for you (less or no side effects) than prescription drugs.
For example, anyone who has frequent colds should take vitamin c tablets. If you get one take eccinacia, each are under $20 and keep you on your feet.
The only time I've ever called in sick to work was when I got food poisoning or a hangover.

And fellas...If the doc asks if it's a boy or girl just tell 'em it's a baby ellephant and ask if he wants to see the trunk...

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Jennifer Pan
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quote: Jon Miller
So how do you like your blood drawn? Sitting up or laying down?
I took it sitting up, 2 vials worth less then a minute. It was weird seeing the blood just quickly flow like that. She stuck one vial in, it almost got half way full in a couple of seconds. The second vial was full even faster than the first. For some reason I felt very little pain. I notice this time she didn't stick the needle deep into my skin.
I had my blood drawn about 7 months ago and it hurt. [Frown] I couldn't even look. [Embarrassed]

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Ron Yost
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Jennifer,

If they're good at drawing blood it shouldn't hurt much. [Smile] Of course, not all are. [Mad]

They don't go 'deep' into your flesh .. the veins (I think they draw from veins?) are just beneath the skin, and they do it with the needle almost horizontal to your arm. You just didn't look the last time so you didn't see that, right? It's not at all like giving you an injection. [Eek!]

You also may have been more nervous last time. That seems to make it worse. [Big Grin]

I just had blood drawn this morning. Two vials, so I guess they're doing a comprehensive 'panel', if that's what it's called. There were a LOT of the little boxes checked on the form I handed them.

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Leo Enticknap
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Most injections are 'subcutaneous' (sp?), or 'below the skin'. Just as long as the needle does just that, the drug is absorbed by the muscle and passes gradually through it and into the blood stream. A subcutaneous needle is extremely thin and you hardly feel anything. Pretty much anyone could adminster a subcutaneous injection (including diabetics, who have to inject themselves with insulin) painlessly. Some (though very few, as far as I understand) drugs have to be injected 'intravenously' (again, sp?), or 'into the vein'. Here the needle penetrates the vein (or artery) itself, and pushes the drug straight into the bloodstrem, so it is pumped right round your body and takes effect within seconds. The needle used for this has to be thicker (i.e. diameter of the tube within it has to be greater than that of a subcutaneous needle) so that the flow of liquid can overcome the pressure within the bloodstream. Blood samples are (obviously!) taken intravenously too, and it takes a lot more skill to put one of these needles in without making a mess and the patient knowing about it.

How do I know all this? Because I once had a flat mate who was a student nurse, and foolishly agreed, in exchange for lots of beer, to act as a guinea pig. Over a decade later, anyone looking at my upper right arm might - with some justification - conclude that I must be a drug addict...

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Jennifer Pan
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quote: Ron Yost
You just didn't look the last time so you didn't see that, right?
The last time when my blood was drawn I saw her stick the needle into the vein deeper. The part I had to turn away was the blood flowing into the vial. But this time it was like... just the very tip of the needle had entered the vein. The nurse was saying that my blood was very first as she was taking it. So I assume I was. Yeah, it could have something to do with me not being nervous. I've notice my fear of certain things have changed lately.

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Ron Yost
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Thanks, Leo .. very helpful info. Always eager to learn! [Big Grin]

I see, Jennifer. Maybe the last draw-person was better?? I've had blood drawn enough to know that, on me, at least, it's nearly always a different 'experience'. Never pleasant, tho.

One time they used a really neat blood-drawing syringe (well, as 'neat' as a syringe can be.) [Big Grin] Anyway, the front of it was on a slight angle, so the needle itself was able to be 'inserted' almost parallel to the vein, if that makes sense.

The tech told me she loves them, and it makes it easier on a patient and easier for them, too, as there's less risk of going completely through the vein and out the other side. [Eek!]

I remember her saying that most facilities don't want to pay for their slightly higher price, tho. That was a year or more ago and I haven't had one used on me since. And, growing older, I seem to have blood drawn fairly frequently these days.

I am curious why, in a young person such as yourself, Jennifer, they're drawing blood so often? Seven-months seems a very short span of time. If I'm being overly nosy, just don't reply. [Smile]

Ron Yost .. Mr. Curious!

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Jennifer Pan
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7 months ago my parents had a health plan that was soon to be terminated since they were going to transfer to AZ so the whole family got blood work done including me. I turned out fine... I also had a check up then too.

And this time I just thought that I should get another check up. I haven't been emotionally healthy so I thought I should check my physical condition if anything hindered...Plus I worked my butt off this past summer(to the point of almost passing out), so maybe I should check if I'm still healthy. Yeah, paranoia. [Big Grin]

They haven't called me yet for my results.

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Ron Yost
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Ah, I see. I'm glad it's not a disease or anything, Jennifer. Guess I'm paranoid, too. Nah, I'm just a worry-wart .. got it from my dear late mother.

Hope you feel better real soon. [Smile]

Ron Yost

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Jennifer Pan
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Thanks, me too. [Smile]

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Mike Blakesley
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quote: Jennifer Pan
I haven't been emotionally healthy
Well, hanging around this place isn't going to help THAT! [Big Grin]

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Jennifer Pan
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Are you an expert on THAT Mike?

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Will Kutler
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Normal? WHATS NORMAL????? [Confused] [Big Grin]

THEY'RE COMMIN TO TAKE ME AWAY HAHA! [Big Grin] [Eek!] [Razz]

SHRINK? [beer] [uhoh] ...WHERE? WHAT SHRINK?????? [thumbsup]

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