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Thomas Procyk
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I never liked Letterman. If he spent less time laughing at his own jokes, maybe he would give other people a chance to laugh. Oh wait, that would mean his jokes have to be funny.

"This show is so great, tonight it's being televised!"

Holy shit! That one puts me on the floor every week I hear it!! Way to go, Letterman, what would we do without your wit??

Leno is only funny when people make fun of him. He has that little weasel laugh of his that's a hoot. When other people try to mimmic it, it's downright hillarious. The "Headlines" and Jay-Walking segments are funny, and the monologue has a few gems, but when he gets to the guest interviews, it's less funny than Larry King.

Conan, on the other hand, is my favorite of the three. Conan seems to strike a chord with my generation for some reason. The content of his show is OK, but it's his delivery which really makes it funny. I liked how he made fun of Leno's Headline segment by making fake headlines and insisting that "You just can't make this stuff up!!" [Smile]

2009 is too far away anyway. By then there might not be any TV.

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Rich Granata
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Hey you guys forgot about Jimmy Kimmel. I am just joking of course. I thought for sure that his show would be cancelled wihin a week. Jimmy Stuart isnt funny, maybe his writers are...but not him IMO.

Conanne the O'brien is my favorite. If only Andy Richter was still around....2009 is far away

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Aaron Mehocic
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Leno is better at the monologue than Letterman, thats for sure. What I'm interested in is when will CBS announce Letterman's replacement? [Smile] Anyway ... Conan isn't bad, but I'm affraid his comedy might not be on par with many of the Tonight Show's loyal viewers. As mentioned previous in this thread, Letterman used to be "classic", but following his 1993 move, he just became, well, stupid. Perhaps the same may happen here: A solid late-late night performer who is probably capable of an earlier slot finally gets his chance ... only to mess it up with piss-poor comedy routines and bad jokes.

I just hope history doesn't repeat itself.

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Dean Kollet
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I've always loved Letterman, and he works in that time slot. Conan is my favorite, but I don't know if he will work in Leno's timeslot

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Jesse Skeen
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Bring back Johnny Carson!

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Phil Hill
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Ditto everything Aaron said. [thumbsup]

Letterman is a waste! But what do ya expect? It's CBS!

Leno: I only watch the 1st 1/2 hour ...the monologue and the shtick, then on to better things.

>>> Phil

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Brian Michael Weidemann
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NBC is just announcing this to get Conan, whose current contract is up soon, to renew so that they can hold on to him. Down the line, I'm sure there could also be some "Oh, Jay is still getting such-and-such ratings, so he decided he won't be leaving until 2012" hoopla.

I mean, good for Conan, but five years is a long time for anything to happen. Too early to tell.

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Bill Enos
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I think the biggest difference between Carson and these assholes on today is Carson's show was about the guests snd Johnny knew when to shut up. These Jerks ( O"brien, Letterman----) programs are about them and MUST revolve about them, the guests are incidental and interruptions to the so called host

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Pravin Ratnam
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Man a lot of grumpiness on this thread. Letterman was the man when i was in college until the early 90s. But I gotta admit, Letterman has been boring in recent years.

Conan has been the best talk show host on network TV. The bits he does in the first half hour are usually better than what SNL offers us in a 90 minute segment. Triumph the insult dog, pimpbot, the andy richter days, the bear who loved himself too much, the monitor skits where politician heads appear and usually someone like Smigel speaks for clinton or bush - too funny. THe Daily Show is the only other talk show i watch and that is on cable.

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Ron Yost
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Yeah, at least the Conan show puts a little thought and effort into a little actual production value and being entertaining. Some of the 'bits' are really funny. The 'monitor' bits back during Clinton's Monicagate were some of the funniest things I've ever seen on television! The dog is good too .. wonder why they don't use it more often? $$$, no doubt. [Big Grin]

I used to like Letterman .. at NBC. He just seems old and tired these days. Almost as if he's irritated to even be there on most nights. Maybe his health isn't good .. I don't know. I'll bet he's a real asshole to work with these days.

Can't stand Leno. Complete showbiz phoney pimping himself and others of the same type. Arrogant prick. Nuff said. [Big Grin]

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Jennifer Pan
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I choose to just watch the guest.... if they even have decent guest on. I like watching how nervous they get or how dumb they act. And you get the occasional smarty pants. I don't care about anyones monologue, its just a bunch of laugh tracks put on high. I want Arsenio back, he was awesome.

I watched a bit of Leno the other day and he was talking about how he was leaving in '09. Saying he was still going to be in the business. Bla bla.... (tear)... What's really getting to me is... when is that black patch on the top of his head going to turn grey. Most likely he'll prolong it until the day he leaves late night.

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Ian Price
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I still don't have a TV. It's been 18-months! And I don't know what the fuck I will be doing in 2009.

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Jennifer Pan
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Aww... [Frown] You're not missing out on much. But you are welcome to watch TV at my place any time. [thumbsup] Also, don't expect me to have an HDTV... I won't be beat down by the man. Actually, I just don't have money to buy one.

What's up with Conan... like he's had plastic surgery or is pulling the Mary Kate routine.

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Paul Mayer
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I don't care for Leno's style, but the man himself is a prince to work with. Very easygoing and professional backstage, as opposed to some of the other "talents" I used to deal with at Caesars Palace, MGM (before it became Bally's), and the Las Vegas Hilton.

Wonder when Conan will get around to renaming the "In the Year 2000" bit? [Big Grin]

Letterman's OK by me, though I too think he's not quite what he was. We should all look and sound so good after bypass surgery.

Already miss Kilborn.

Jimmy Kimmel? He needs to surround himself with some producers that know the basics of showmanship. I take it the show is supposed to be young and "edgy" but it comes off as incredibly inept in execution. It's evolving as its producers reinvent the wheel, discovering for themselves what more experienced people already know, as far as what works and what doesn't on stage or in front of a camera. But the learning seems to be going very slowly. ABC must be hard up to fill that slot--can't believe the patience they're showing while the show goes through its agonizing adjustments. In its present state the show, though improved, is a waste of bandwidth.

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Brad Allen
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Conan is the most annoying person on televsion, as well as the most rediculous. Can't believe he wasn't canceled in the first week.
Jay is just not funny, except for Jay Walking. But I can get that anytime by watching Street Smarts.
Letterman rules, altho he was better in the NBC days.

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