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Andy Summers
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Paul’

Yeah I’ve read the horror stories about it, I think there’s a link on the “Blade Runner” page somewhere, so this still not too bad for a PAL laserdisc that’s around 23 years old,

So you have noticed some Laserdisc Rot on your collection, it’s the pits, I remember call Lucasfilm “THX” division that controls and monitors reports, my concern was “Dante’s Peak” which had Laser Rot on it, so I noted the pressing number and gave them the details so that they can turn things around, also I sent the disc back to where I bought it from and a second “Dante’s Peak” was sent out spot on this time, that was around 1998 I think!

I still have the Dante’s Peak on THX Laserdisc, plus the Region 2 DVD.

Quote-Paul’
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I was fortunate to see SW in 70mm at the pre-twinned Avco General Cinema theatre in Westwood, one of the first (the first?) THX houses, in May of 1983. Got a private weekday afternoon showing as there was no one else in the place that day. My mom and grandpa were next door, taking in "Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence."
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Is the Westwood still “THX” and is there any pictures of her, and what about reviews of how it sounded back then when it opened etc, etc…

Still on the ole “HAM” I was on the CB Radio had a Cobra 148 GTL-DX and the longest distance I got to was (Falkland islands) the Cobra was modified with a double high band which allowed me to broadcast on the 28Mhz band, yeah I know you need a licence to Broadcast there, will that’s as far as I’ve got, the other guy on that band was somewhere in Southampton just 40miles away from me, and boy was he pissed off…LOL and said some rude words to me, so I just (Keyed him out)…

Don’t have a CB Radio anymore, but seen lots of SNAKES on the Ebay so one day I may return to the rig with Cobra 148 GTL-DX, not there’s not much happening there anymore as the British government killed it of on November 5th 1981, bummer “Guy Fawkes” night, yeah that was an unhappy day…. [puke]

But did I go legal, hell no I’m a rebel, and carried on broadcasting illegal till I went 10-7 around 1987… [Big Grin]

Can you decode these three letters? which is in Morse - .... -..-

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Jeffry L. Johnson
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quote: Gordon McLeod was the last to post
Do you happen to have a list or a direct link to the 70mm film Dolby format, now that will tickly me cheers.
Dolby Stereo Format Codes ?

or

Presented in 70mm Dolby Stereo ?

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Michael Coate
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quote: Andy Summers was the last to post
I was fortunate to see SW in 70mm at the pre-twinned Avco General Cinema theatre in Westwood, one of the first (the first?) THX houses, in May of 1983. Got a private weekday afternoon showing as there was no one else in the place that day. My mom and grandpa were next door, taking in "Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence."
Wasn't "Merry Christmas, Mr. Lawrence" released in 1983? That would suggest it was "Return Of The Jedi," rather than the original "Star Wars," that you watched on this particular occasion at the Avco.

[BTW, there seems to be a glitch of some kind; the above quote is from Paul Mayer, not Andy Summers.]

quote: Andy Summers
Ok then, how about “Return of the Jedi” theatrical release 70mm Dolby Stereo, and it was shown in two THX sound system theatres in the U.S. this was around, May 25th 1983, anyway information regarding it’s (Dolby Stereo THX) sound presentation, please.
There were at least three THX engagements of "Jedi."

"Return Of The Jedi" 70mm Engagements

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CALIFORNIA
Los Angeles (Westwood Village): [GCC] Avco Center (THX)

TEXAS
Addison: [UA] Prestonwood Creek 5 (THX)
Dallas: [GCC] Northpark I&II (THX)

BTW, I did not see any THX presentations of "Jedi" in its original release. However, I did attend a special THX demo hosted by Lucasfilm in 1987 at the Chinese Theater in Hollywood. They ran an assortment of clips, including a "building a soundtrack" scene from "Raiders Of The Lost Ark" one sound element at a time (production dialog, music, ADR, foley, effects, ambience, "baby boom," etc., then the final mix; fascinating!), a bunch of Dolby stuff, and a complete showing of "Return Of The Jedi." The presentation was fantastic!!! (And I don't care what anyone says about the Chinese Theater's history of audio shortcomings or undeserved THX-certification...)

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Andy Summers
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Jeffery’

Cheers, that’s what I was looking for; you’re on the ball as always my compliments. [thumbsup]

Michael’

Cheers, but is there more, as I have come across this information before, there most be something more absorbing, not been ungrateful again cheers, it needs words from the past words that expires how it felt in a THX sound system theatre back then in 1983?

Again cheers for the effort [thumbsup]

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Bill Gabel
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quote: Martin Brooks
aside from the thrill of seeing a movie with 7000 people
Radio City Music Hall seats 5000 people.

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Paul Mayer
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You're right Michael, it was SW:ROTJ. To me SW is SW. I'm not a fan of the franchise, especially after these last three examples. The only reason I've seen any of them has been to check out the latest flavor of DLP or D-ILA projection. The films themselves have been pure crap.

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Michael Coate
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quote: Paul Mayer
To me SW is SW.
Then that explains why you once told me you saw "S-T-A-R W-A-R-S" in 70mm at the Parkway in Las Vegas. [Smile] ["Star Wars" ran there in 35mm; "Empire" ran there in 70mm; "Jedi" ran at a different theater]

I understand what you're saying regarding the thinking of all of the movies in a series as "the same thing," though to me this is quite strange and contributes to misunderstandings in forums such as this. Could this same line of thinking explain things like why Will Kutler thinks he saw "Star Wars" in 70mm at the El Dorado in Tucson? ["The Empire Strikes Back" was the movie in the "Star Wars" series that played in 70mm at the El Dorado.]

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Greg Mueller
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If this has not been stated before in the thread...
A great many of the original 35mm prints were in glorius mono. All but one that I have seen have been mono. Some were in Eastman some in LPP

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Michael Coate
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Wasn't "Blade Runner" (or is it "Star Wars" you're referring to) released before the introduction of LPP stock?

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Monte L Fullmer
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..a little lost here: what is "LPP" stock? Haven't heard that one before.

thx-Monte

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Greg Mueller
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Star Wars was first (I think 77). Blade Runner was 82 (the year of transition to LPP)

Monte
LPP is low fade stock, it followed the dreaded Eastman in 82

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Bill Gabel
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The stock before it was SP.

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Michael Coate
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Monte,
LPP, I believe, stands for Lowfade Positive Print.

Greg,
It's still unclear to me which film you were referring to when you mentioned handling mono prints. The thread is primarily about "Blade Runner," which I guess might have had some LPP prints if they existed at that point in time. However, the thread at the point you chimed in had drifted to the subject of "Star Wars," which certainly was released before the introduction of LPP.

So which title --- "Blade Runner" or "Star Wars" --- were you referring to???

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John Pytlak
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http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/products/chrono3.jhtml?id=0.1.4.38.6&lc=en

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1979

EASTMAN Color LF Print film, 7378. Improved cyan dye post processing keeping. Process ECP. Markedly improved cyan dye dark-keeping stability. Discontinued January, 1982.
EASTMAN Color LFSP film, 7379. Same as 7378 except for Process ECP-2. Markedly improved cyan dye dark-keeping stability.1 Discontinued 1983.


http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/products/chrono4.jhtml?id=0.1.4.38.8&lc=en

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1982

EASTMAN Color Print film, 7/5384 Improved cyan dye dark keeping and red sensitivity to process variations. Process ECP-2A. Replaced 7/5381, 7/5383, 7378, 7379. In SMPTE Journal December 1982 and BKSTS Journal August 1983.


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Greg Mueller
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I was responding to the topic title of this thread, Blade Runner.

Original 35mm release prints were in mono and both Eastman and LPP.
Some LPP was unmarked but could be identified by it's obvious blue hue and no markings. Some was marked LPP and of course the eastman was marked Eastman.
I have no info about Star Wars.

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