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Brad Miller
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 - posted 11-06-2010 01:10 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
I've never heard of a cilantro allergy. That sucks. Damn those Chipotle burritos are awesome.

BTW, I can do without Freebirds. I must be allergic to something they put in their burritos because I always feel slightly ill afterwards. Of course if your thing is tattooed, pierced and various freaky body mutilation employees, Freebirds hires only those to serve you.

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Sam D. Chavez
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I don't think this an allergy, it's an aversion.

Of course, I grew up on the stuff. Every once in a while I can pick up a very slight taste of hand soap.

So that pretty much leaves out Mexican and Thai food for you.

There's no such thing as decent Mexican food anywhere near Pittsburgh so no great loss.

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Chris Slycord
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I think it's likely more than an aversion, since every time he eats something with it, he gets sick.

And if someone did have this allergy, if you visit to places outside of the Americas, few people will know WTF you're talking about when you say cilantro, since everywhere else it's called coriander.

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Martin McCaffery
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Coriander is the seed of cilantro and does taste different.

I remember when cilantro was called chinese parsley for some reason.

I have a nephew who breaks out in hives from cilantro, and his mother, my sister broke out in hives when I introduced her to Indian food, probably from coriander.

So yeah, people have allergies and/or intolerances for cilantro. I on the other hand, love it, though had to acquire the taste.

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Joe Redifer
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What the flying eff is cilantro? This is the first I've heard of it. Do you mean those green specks?

What is the point of an allergy? It serves no function!

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Randy Stankey
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Yes, Joe, it's that chopped-up, leafy, green parsley shit they sprinkle in everything. It's often called "Chinese Parsley." It's just fucking gross.

The condition is often believed to be genetically based. There have been studies on identical twins. Identical twins have a much greater prevalence of sharing a hatred of the taste of cilantro than fraternal twins.

Julia Child was a cilantro hater. She was known to pick cilantro and arugula, a related plant, out of her food and throw it on the floor.

This is not an unknown condition. I have known about it for 20 years, obviously. The waiter in the Indian restaurant is the one who clued me in. He was well aware of it.

There are plenty of articles on the subject:

New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/14/dining/14curious.html
quote:
FOOD partisanship doesn’t usually reach the same heights of animosity as the political variety, except in the case of the anti-cilantro party. The green parts of the plant that gives us coriander seeds seem to inspire a primal revulsion among an outspoken minority of eaters.
N.P.R. - National Public Radio: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=98695984
quote:
I hate cilantro. As far as I'm concerned, it should be wiped off the face of the planet. And I'm not alone in my extremist views.

"It has that same sort of acrid sweetness of death," according to my friend Jason. "It's got this evilness to it," my friend Wendy concurs.

Wikipedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coriander
quote:
The leaves have a different taste from the seeds, with citrus overtones. Some perceive an unpleasant "soapy" taste or a rank smell and avoid the leaves. The flavours have also been compared to those of the stink bug, and similar chemical groups are involved (aldehydes). Belief that aversion is genetically determined may arise from the known genetic variation in taste perception of the synthetic chemical phenylthiocarbamide; however, no specific link has been established between coriander and a bitter taste perception gene.
Over the years, I have been able to train my sense of taste to overcome some of the aversion. I can overcome small amounts of the stuff and, if it is cooked, the taste is further mitigated. However, Chipotle's food is literally swimming with the stuff. There is no overcoming it.

Go outside and catch a stink bug then squash it. Cilantro has almost exactly the same awful, putrid smell to me. If you get enough of it, you can become nauseous! That is the effect cilantro has on me when I get a snoot full of it. The taste is soapy and slightly metallic. It is like somebody didn't wash the dishes. It is soapy and dirty tasting like filthy dish water.

Yes, I did write Chipotle a message about it last night after I got home. It was almost exactly what I wrote above but I left out the cussing parts.

Frankly, I'm pretty damn disappointed. You guys talked the place up so much. I was expecting greatness but the sight, the smell and taste of that awful shit was enough to turn my stomach.

Celiac/gluten allergy, peanut allergy or seafood allergy can land people in the hospital and even kill them. I don't have a problem with a company who caters to those problems even if only 5% of the combined population is affected but at least 5% of the population is allergic to cilantro, even if it won't kill them. It only makes me feel like puking.

When you have an allergy to a food you learn to take it in stride. You realize that most other people don't see it the way you do and you deal with the problem. However, the thing that pisses me off the most is how they shout to the rafters, "Cilantro! Cilantro! Cilantro!," yet none of their employees and none of the company literature seem to have any inkling of this problem.

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Joe Redifer
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Well, go to Q-Doba, then.

I loves Chipotle burritos!

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Brad Miller
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Qdoba or whatever it is isn't very good at all. Worse is Mission Burrito. Planet Burrito is decent. Chipotle is by far the best ever (except for cilantro haters).

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Manny Knowles
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Love Chipottle - (chi-POT-uhl) [Razz]

Burrito Bowl
Rice with Pinto Beans
Carnitas
Medium Salsa
Corn and Sour Cream

Chips and a blackberry Izze!!!!!

MMMMMMmmmmmm

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Joe Redifer
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The correct pronunciation is chi-POE-tul. Get with it.

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Randy Stankey
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I want to make it clear that the experience at Chipotle was good except for the cilantro. I had to wrangle with them on two occasions to get food without it.

My wife, who does not share my aversion to cilantro thinks that they use too much of the stuff. She says, the taste of cilantro overpowers the flavor of the rest of the food.

I like burritos. There are few other places in town where you can get good "authentic" burritos. (At least "definitively good" burritos, if not authentically Mexican.)

There is an authentic Mexican restaurant in town. http://www.elcanelo.net/
It is owned by Mexicans even if it caters to the American stereotype of a Mexican restaurant. My wife doesn't dig Mexican food as much as I do, so we don't go there as often as I like. I thought Chipotle would be a good compromise because they serve taco/burrito salads which, although watered down in terms of "Mexican style," Melanie does like them.

One plus for Chipotle is that they do serve a spicy salsa. I really dig spicy food. I keep a collection of hot sauces at home to spice up food at the dinner table. Since Chipotle does offer Tobasco and Tobasco Chipotle sauces in the bottle to use as a condiment I'll give them an extra bonus point.

If they didn't literally douse their food with cilantro I could put enough Tobasco sauce on the burrito to cancel out the soapy flavor. However, it would be nice if a place as upscale as Chipotle offered their own house brand of hot sauce.

I would have given them another bonus point if they had better access to non-cilantro alternatives and they could have scored a third bonus point if even one of their employees understood that some people find the taste of cilantro repulsive.

I'll wait and see what kind of reply I get to the message I sent last night. If it is, at least, favorable without being some kind of canned, "We're sorry" reply I might be willing to give them a second chance.

When I go there again... IF I go there again, I'll probably be packing my own bottle of hot sauce. Likely "Inner Beauty Real Hot Sauce!" [Big Grin]

Joe, I thought it was pronnounced, "Chip-OAT-lee" [Wink]

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Brad Miller
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Well Randy, if you ever get off your butt and come visit, I will take you to Mi Chula's Good Mexican. It is my absolute favorite Mexican food restaurant ever. There are only 2 locations right now, but I suspect they will be expanding. So far everyone I have taken to it (except for one person who is protesting Mexican food because he doesn't like Mexicans) has loved it. I mean after all it DOES say "good Mexican" right on the sign!

The salsa will amaze you. It is served warm, is spicy but without too much kick and has a unique smoky flavor. Hopefully there isn't any cilantro in there, but daaaaaaaaaaamn is it good!

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Manny Knowles
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quote: Joe Redifer
The correct pronunciation is chi-POE-tul. Get with it.
Screw you, Joe! [Big Grin]

Just TRY asking for directions to the nearest "chi-POE-tul" in SoCal -- you'd STARVE before you found anyone who'd even know WTF you're talking about.

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Chris Slycord
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quote: Martin McCaffery
Coriander is the seed of cilantro and does taste different.
Coriander is the whole plant. Cilantro is the name that many people from Latin America call the leaves of it. Lots of people in Europe or India (from their Brit influence) would know the leaves as being "Coriander leaves."

quote: Randy Stankey
I don't have a problem with a company who caters to those problems even if only 5% of the combined population is affected but at least 5% of the population is allergic to cilantro, even if it won't kill them. It only makes me feel like puking.
At least be honest. You do have a problem with them catering to X while not catering toward your own issue. [edit] But I'm not saying you're wrong for feeling this way; I can totally understand why you'd feel that.[/edit]

And btw, gluten and/or wheat allergies and intolerances don't generally cause people to die. It usually fucks with their absorption of nutrients in their gut, making them get the shits and stuff like mouth sores from not absorbing enough B-vitamins.

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Joe Redifer
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quote: Manny Knowles
Just TRY asking for directions to the nearest "chi-POE-tul" in SoCal -- you'd STARVE before you found anyone who'd even know WTF you're talking about.
Well, there is a unique invention out now called "the internet" which was invented by Al Gore to help me find any Chipotle location near me. But I wouldn't even need to use that since there is nearly a Chipotle on every other block.

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