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Kurt Zupin
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posted 11-09-2010 11:32 AM

No, I like it. Just not in my rice, I put it in alot of Italian stuff I make at home. I think with the rice, its actually the lime juice they put in it. Not a fan of straight lime.

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Bobby Henderson
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posted 11-09-2010 04:00 PM

I like Chipotle, but then I like cilantro in salsa and other Mexican foods. To each his own. Everyone has an intense dislike to at least one or more kinds of food or food ingredients. And this doesn't even get into food allergies (I know a young lady who is intensely allergic to bananas -never heard of that before).

Although I like Tex-Mex food, I don't like sour cream. I especially don't like sour cream if it is used by itself as a topping. I won't eat a baked potato loaded with the stuff. The only way I can tolerate sour cream is if it is mixed up enough with other ingredients enough that it hides at least some of the taste and as much of that nasty texture as possible. I hate "taco supreme" tacos from Taco Bell because they're usually heavily loaded with sour cream. I have to use my soft drink as a "chaser" after biting into one of those nasty things to rinse the disgusting sour cream residue out of my mouth.

I really HATE cottage cheese. My mother can eat a bowl of that stuff with slices of pineapple or peaches mixed into it. The mere thought of it is making my stomach turn. If you put a spoonful of the stuff in front of my face I might hurl. If I took a bite of it I would definitely vomit, projectile style, repeatedly.

I also don't like liver, sardines, canned spinach, cauliflower, cantaloupe and squash. I can tolerate pickled okra only to a very limited extent -honestly the stuff is slimy and pretty fucking gross. I could add more to this list, but I can't remember every one of the foods I dislike immediately.

Lots of people from my own family members and friends to complete strangers have tried to argue with me that I'm somehow wrong for disliking the foods I dislike. And that's a load of crap. If something tastes disgusting to me then it only tastes disgusting. Others can keep on saying, "well I love sour cream!" Dude, your taste buds are NOT my taste buds. We're different. Leave it at that already.

Children have very different senses of taste and far more sensitive taste buds. While quality nutrition is important, it can be pretty cruel for parents to force a child to eat some rancid smelling food that requires an acquired taste and dulled adult aged taste buds to tolerate. My mother learned quick if she forced me to eat something (like shove a spoonful of cottage cheese into my mouth) I would be guaranteed to launch vomit onto the carpet.

I wish we had a Chipotle here in Lawton. The nearest one is in Norman near the Oklahoma University campus corner. Freebirds World Burrito is within rock throwing distance of that Chipotle location.

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Mark Lensenmayer
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posted 11-09-2010 05:22 PM

A local restaurant group has a prototype Italian food location that uses the Chipotle system. There is a single line to the ordering station, then you get to pick either a pasta bowl, an Italian Flatbread or Salad. The Grill items are Calamari, vegetarian, Italian meats, Chicken, Italian Sausage, Steak or Salmon. Sauces are Pomodoro, Diavolo (spicy), Red Pepper Pesto, Basil Pesto, Creamy Parmesan or salad dressings. You can then choose from lettuce, parmesan cheese, feta cheese, red onions, black olives, pancetta, peppadew peppers or a few others.

Prices are about the same as Chipotle, the quality of the food is very, very good, and the store is doing great business. Even with a line, the service is quite fast.

Only a few weeks old at this point, but they are already planning on expanding.

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Caleb Johnstone-Cowan
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posted 11-09-2010 05:31 PM

Cheers Randy, I'm gonna try a milkshake with my next Burrito, there's a good shop that does them near enough to Chipotle. I can eat very hot food but it's the particular way it is done in Mexican food that doesn't always sit with what I usually drink (Coke and Beer).

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Randy Stankey
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posted 11-09-2010 07:21 PM

There are three main groups of "hot" foods that I know of:
Hot peppers like I Mexican food. Habaneros and Jalapenos, etc.
Hot spices like I chili. Cayenne, paprika or black pepper.
Hot roots like horseradish, wasabi. I would also include hot mustards in this category.

Hot peppers get their heat from the capsicum oil in the seeds and internal parts of the pepper. The flesh isn't as hot.

Hot spices get their heat from aromatics in the spice. Probably oil based but not the same as capsicum.

Hot horseradish gets its heat from juices within the plant.

Each type of heat goes best with a certain type of food. I would not put wasabi in chili nor would I put Jalapenos on sashimi.

It all depends on what kind of food I'm eating as to what method of dealing with the heat I use. Often, it's beer and bread or plain rice.

I can't tolerate a lot of milk and, like Bobby, I don't care for sour cream in large amounts.

It also changes up with different foods. When I eat spicy Indian food, I almost always drink lots of beer... IPA, of course... Then I finish off with some galum jamun and some anise seed.

I think of eating hot food as sort of a sport but, mostly, I just plain like it.
I don't know what it is, exactly, but a good, hot burrito or a plate of extra spicy vindaloo always hits the spot. Especially when washed down with a good beer! [thumbsup]

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Manny Knowles
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posted 11-09-2010 09:32 PM

I liked the flavor of Chipotle's medium salsa, but couldn't tolerate the hotness. I was literally ordering it on the side and using a spoon to place a "dot" of salsa on each forkful.

This problem, and many others, went away after I got treated for a B12 deficiency. So now I don't have to order it on the side anymore!

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Chris Slycord
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posted 11-09-2010 10:24 PM

quote: Bobby Henderson
Children have very different senses of taste and far more sensitive taste buds. While quality nutrition is important, it can be pretty cruel for parents to force a child to eat some rancid smelling food that requires an acquired taste and dulled adult aged taste buds to tolerate. My mother learned quick if she forced me to eat something (like shove a spoonful of cottage cheese into my mouth) I would be guaranteed to launch vomit onto the carpet.

That's not entirely a fair statement because it is extremely common for people in general (but especially kids) to dislike a new food where it takes them having it several times before they start to enjoy it. Just because someone dislikes it doesn't mean that they will always do so or that it shouldn't be continued to be introduced to the diet.

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Bobby Henderson
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posted 11-09-2010 10:53 PM

I agree many kids are very finicky about trying new foods. Quite a few kids these days are a real pain in the ass when it comes to just cooperating and eating a meal. I'm talking about foods the kid has eaten before but now just doesn't want to because he/she is just being a selfish little brat. It's a real load of fun when the kid says he wants spaghetti for dinner, but then when the meal is ready he whines, "but I really wanted fried chicken."

But that's different from forcing a child to eat something that is going to make him or her physically sick every time they take a bite of it. That was me with cottage cheese as far back as I can remember. And the rule still applies today. Marylin Manson has a better chance of booking a concert in the middle of Mecca than I do of ever acquiring a taste for cottage cheese.

I need to add a little extra explanation to this comment I made earlier:

quote: Bobby Henderson
I hate "taco supreme" tacos from Taco Bell because they're usually heavily loaded with sour cream. I have to use my soft drink as a "chaser" after biting into one of those nasty things to rinse the disgusting sour cream residue out of my mouth

I never, ever order a Taco Supreme by deliberate choice (or anything else containing big globs of sour cream) from Taco Bell or any other restaurant. Sometimes I get stuck with a few of those things because of a mistake made by the restaurant staff. No problem, I just exchange the fouled tacos for clean versions. The real problem occurs when someone else goes to Taco Bell and orders for me. It could be a co-worker getting lunch for the group. It could be a friend "making a run to the border" while a group of us are playing poker, watching a football game, etc. The person placing the order just assumes everyone LOVES sour cream when in fact many people do not. Or that person insists on forcing that love of sour cream onto me. So I get the choice of choking down those nasty-fied tacos, giving them to someone else and doing without or personally going to Taco Bell and getting the job of ordering tacos done right.

One of my friends cannot stand condiments of any kind on sandwiches or burgers. Come to think of it I don't think he puts ketchup on French fries either. One trip we made to Braum's involved him returning his burger three times before they finally overcame their auto-pilot tendencies and gave him a dry burger.

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Brad Miller
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posted 11-10-2010 01:15 AM

Manny, I always get extra medium, and then use the "smoked" Tabasco along with lemon juice from the lemons at the drink stand. Try it!

Bobby, it sounds like we would get along just fine when it comes to dinner. Cottage cheese, sour cream, liver, sardines, etc....ummmm, no.

You are however wrong about your claim that Taco Bell "does tacos right". Their tacos are pretty stale and bland.

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Joe Redifer
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posted 11-10-2010 04:23 AM

I have never in my entire life been to or eaten anything from Taco Bell. I even refuse to drive my friends there when they want it because I don't want that potential smell in my car. I love tacos and I love burritos, but I love 'em to be amazingly bland. Meat, beans and cheese does it for me. I do like 'em spicy. Qdoba is kind of like Chipotle without the spiciness. It's a tad dull.

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Bobby Henderson
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posted 11-10-2010 09:40 AM

quote: Brad Miller
You are however wrong about your claim that Taco Bell "does tacos right". Their tacos are pretty stale and bland.

I didn't mean to imply Taco Bell makes great tacos ("tacos done right"). What I meant getting right was the ordering process, "dude, order my damned tacos WITHOUT sour cream! I don't want a nasty taco supreme!"

I agree Taco Bell does not make the best tacos. Out of Tex-Mex oriented fast food chains here in Lawton I prefer Taco Bueno (their taco meat and other ingredients are better and they have real salsa instead of sauce in ketchup packets). But they have only 1 location here in town and it isn't close enough to work to visit on lunch break. There is a Taco Bell/KFC combo store a couple blocks from my work place; so that place is usually chosen out of convenience not quality (Taco Bell has 4 locations in town). Taco Mayo is better than Taco Bell in a number of ways, but if I buy tacos there I always order inside so I can get some salsa from the salsa bar. Their ketchup packet "salsa" really sucks. Taco Mayo also has 4 locations here, but none are as close as Taco Hell, um I mean Bell.

Lawton has a few sit down Mexican Restaurants, most of which are local. I prefer Salas' Restaurant out of that group.

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Caleb Johnstone-Cowan
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posted 11-10-2010 07:50 PM

You guys have IPA over there? It's probably gonna be very expensive imported from the UK but Marston's Old Empire is among the best I've have. Cobra Beer goes down very well with a Curry. I like spicy Indian food but the restaurants here throw so much Onion in the dish to bulk it up and I really can't tolerate Onions.

We also have Taco Bell here now. My friends drove across London which is quite a distance to try it as their only location is in a very large mall on the eastern edge of the M25 (the ring road that surrounds the London area). Not worth it apparently, it wasn't great in Canada when I tried it.

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Randy Stankey
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posted 11-10-2010 10:17 PM

Most of the ethnic restaurants I go to have at least one type of beer from their "home country."

Go to a Chinese restaurant and you'll find Tsingtao. Go to a Japanese joint and you'll find Sapporo. Most Mexican places have Negra Modelo. And, at most Indian restaurants you can find at least one or two brands of IPA.

You do pay the price for imported beer but it's not that much more expensive. I don't go to ethnic restaurants very often so I don't mind the expense. It's all part of having a night out. Besides, I don't drink that much beer. I hate drinking most American domestics. 90% of them taste like Alka Seltzer to me! I'm not going to waste my beer money on cheap swill. I'd rather save it up and buy something I like.

Foreign import beers are pretty common here. I can pick up Chimay in the local grocery store. If I get a hankering to have a beer it'll usually be something along those lines. A 750 ml bottle of Chimay Blue only cost about $12.00.

I like onion and garlic. Want to try a real treat? Have a fried onion and garlic sandwich with bacon and Limburger cheese then wash it down with some beer!

My wife would make me sleep on the couch for three days if I ate one of those!

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Bobby Henderson
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posted 11-10-2010 11:17 PM

Mmm. Chimay Blue. Now that's a damned great beer. Not cheap though, a couple of our local liquor stores carry the 3 pack gift sets that include the steel rimmed glass and often charge more than $20 for it. I forget what the going price is for the 750ml bottle. Cache Road Discount Liquor stocks some big "magnum" sized bottles of the stuff.

AFAIK, Lawton does not have any India-oriented restaurants. I hesitate to use the term "Indian" because it causes confusion around here. We have a large "Native American" population here and the most popular Indian food item around here is the Indian Taco.

OTOH, you can get a decent IPA beer at a few places in town. They just don't serve Indian food. Some people don't like Indian Pale Ale beers for the hoppy, sometimes bitter and citrus like flavor, but I usually like it. For a top rated import or American IPA you usually have to visit a well stocked liquor store.

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Randy Stankey
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posted 11-10-2010 11:43 PM

Some day, I'm going to go to Belgium just so I can drink some Chimay Gold.

If you don't already know this, Chimay Gold is not sold commercially and can only be had if you go to the monastery in person.

Yeah, I'd spend a week living there, shoveling spent malt, if I got to drink some of the beer afterward!

Gee, I wonder if they'd take some burritos from Chipotle in trade?
Sans cilantro, of course!
[Wink]

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