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Mark Gulbrandsen
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From: Music City
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posted 07-09-2006 05:44 PM

Yea, I agree. Microsoft had a seminar at the Boise Egyptian a number of years back for the beta testing for XP and they gave all the copies out for free.
If I did computers for a living I would probably take a machine and just set up Vista on it so I would know it's ins and outs by the time it hits the shelves.
Mark

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Adam Wilbert
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posted 07-09-2006 05:44 PM

Greg,

Vista Beta 2 is a public beta that MS made available on their web page. If you could handle the 3ish gig download, you could just download the iso and burn your own DVD, otherwise you could order a disc from Microsoft for about ten bucks. I don't think that there are any restrictions on use. I can post screenshots next time I boot my laptop to Vista.

Bobby,
I'm running the 32 bit build. I understand that the 64 bit version is even buggier with drivers being nearly non-existant. The on-line recommendation is that, even if you have a 64 bit processor, the 32 bit vista beta will work better. I assume this will change come release. Knowing Microsoft though... [Razz]

I only installed the trial versions of the CS2 suite, and never installed acrobat. Since GoLive wouldn't work, and thats what I need most, that meant that vista isn't yet viable for me to do more with than tinker. I did install acrobat reader without any problems, whatever thats worth.

I also have to say that IE 7 is kind of cool. Still not going to replace my Firefox, but at least it renders transparent PNG files correctly!

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Monte L Fullmer
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posted 07-09-2006 06:13 PM

Yea..I just did it by spending the 10 bucks for the Beta 2 release - just to see how it'd performed against XP.

Figured that the $10.50 isn't gonna kill me for a year's worth of VISTA usage and using the 32x version with this laptop.

I could easily use the Premier version due to the requirements to run VISTA are met with with this laptop, but my videocard isn't fast enough to use the AERO screen option, but the other features that VISTA offers does work quite well.

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Adam Wilbert
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posted 07-09-2006 06:27 PM

Monte, I'm in the same boat graphically. I'd like to think that its just lackluster beta drivers that are keeping my video card from working fully (vista says that no hardware acceleration is detected, when the card is DirectX 9 capable). I just keep checking windows update and hope that will get resolved...

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Leo Enticknap
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posted 07-10-2006 04:54 AM

quote: Adam Wilbert
If you could handle the 3ish gig download, you could just download the iso and burn your own DVD, otherwise you could order a disc from Microsoft for about ten bucks.

It says that the beta testing programme is now full and that they're not issuing any new product keys.

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Dan Harris
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posted 07-11-2006 04:16 PM

I was surprised to find that Vista has drivers for everything I've thrown at it so far, except for my display (Sony SDM-S71), which just registers as a default monitor. I didn't even initially think to look and see if it had found the correct video card, but it has and it's all working perfectly. The only thing it didn't find on first installation was the Soundcard drivers, but these came through in an update a few hours after installation.

You can still download and install the latest Vista Beta, but as Leo says they are not issuing any more activation keys. Some Beta testers had the option to request a further 9 activation keys to use on different machines, so you may find someone with a spare.

If you have a spare hard drive and just want to give it a test run, you have 14 days before you have to activate and it stops working.

MS have now released Office 2007 Beta, and are still issuing activation keys. It's time-limited until Feb 2007, but it's great - although an entirely new interface to learn!

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Michael Schaffer
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posted 07-11-2006 07:29 PM

I think the monitor thing isn't even any kind of driver. It is a text file with info about the monitor name and operating parameters so the graphics adapter can know what resolutions it can run at what refresh rates. I forgot where the files are laid down, but it shouldn't be too difficult to find them and then you can simply edit your own monitor file. Just cosmetics, of course, nothing vitally important. Only sometimes the default monitor settings don't allow you as high refresh rates as the monitor may support to give you a flicker free image at a high resolution.
But that doesn't apply when you have an LCD monitor anyway.

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Robert Burtcher
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posted 07-12-2006 12:49 AM

To diverge slightly from the topic at hand...

quote: Mark Ogden
This is one of the things that have made me so ardently, smugly and defensively a Mac person. There is NONE of this ridiculous operating system guessing game. No trying to guess how much OS you need to drive your shit, or how much your current hardware will support, or whether or not you will need to upgrade later. In Macworld, it’s all just OSX, with just one level, and everything from Elmo’s Sesame Street Sing-a-Long to Final Cut Pro HD installs and runs on it beautifully. And that’s huge.

quote: Bobby Henderson
It took only four posts to steer this into fucking lame Mac versus PC territory.

Come on, guys. Let's actually READ instead of going "OMFG! APPLE VS WINDOWS ULTIMATE SHOWDOWN!!!!!!".

Personally, I'm a Windows guy. Mark DOES make a very good point, however. MacOS doesn't have the different product tiers. There's just one MacOS X to purchase. Windows, on the other hand, usually has several different "tiers" of the same damn operating system, with the lower tiers crippled in one way or another. With MacOS, you install it and it "just works" for what you want it to. You don't have to fiddle around and purchase a different copy of the same OS just to get simple TCP/IP services or multiprocessor support.

Now, back on topic.

Vista will be very interesting, I think. The fully 3D user interface is overkill and unnecessary, in my personal opinion, but it does look rather cool. I guess I'll have to wait a while, though, to actually use it, since they aren't giving out any new product keys. =(

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Monte L Fullmer
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posted 07-12-2006 02:07 PM

Okey .. If we really want to stir up the OS10 vs Windows thing, why don't we just call a truce (since the war will never end between the two) and mix things up some with a lot of us playing with Linux - if you really want to play with a stable OS.

Just find you a good copy of Linux that you can download an .iso file to burn on CD, set your machine to boot from CD and have some fun.

-Monte

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Allison Parsons
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posted 04-03-2007 12:25 PM

I just bought a new Dell notebook with Vista already installed. It seems like IE7 is running very slowly. It takes a great deal of time to load up a few sites I go to more than once a day. Sometimes, they don't even load up at all. Anyone else experienceing slow internet with Vista?

I downloaded a 'panda gadget'. It's a live feed of the panda exhibit on the San Diego zoo. Highly worth it [Smile]

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Bobby Henderson
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posted 04-03-2007 01:13 PM

I know a few people experiencing serious some headaches with Vista on new machines.

One coworker told me he couldn't get a new store-bought desktop system to shut down correctly, and when he forced it to shut down the OS had to be reinstalled! A tech support guy spent half a day at his home fixing the thing.

Honestly, I don't think Vista is still quite ready for casual computer users to embrace. The OS is clearly in the throws of "new adopter" territory, where the end users get to serve in a broad, yet informal level of beta testing. Perhaps by this fall or year's end Vista may be more mature, stable and safe for general use.

If I had to buy a new PC today, I'd still get it loaded with Windows XP Professional SP2 and hold off on the Vista thing. It would be just like when WinXP was released. A number of vendors continued to offer Win2000 Professional as an option. Are those free Vista upgrade coupons good for a considerable amount of time?

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Tim Reed
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posted 04-03-2007 01:17 PM

Very slow. And it's a memory hog. We get the distinct feeling this one's gonna be another Windows ME...

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Mike Heenan
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posted 04-03-2007 01:25 PM

I bought a laptop with Vista installed about 3 months ago and so far it's great. I used IE7 for a while with no problems (loaded quickly etc) but I'm a Firefox guy. I bought my computer to do video editing so I got a higher end one, with 240gb hard drive, 2gb memory, etc. Perhaps the reason you're having trouble is because you dont have more than the minimum memory installed? I'm currently having trouble using Adobe Premiere pro 2, it takes like 3 minutes to load up, and if I switch between programs, like if I want to minimize Premiere, and check email or surf the net, and then bring premiere back up again, the program freezes up to Not Responding, then it usually fixes itself after 30 seconds or so. I've read on Adobe's site that there are compatibility problems with Vista, and that will be fixed with 3.0 this spring or summer. I wouldn't recommend anyone upgrade to Vista for the sake of upgrading, only do it if you get a complete new system with lots of memory etc.

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Richard Greco
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posted 04-03-2007 02:41 PM

One thing with the internet...

DON'T USE IE!!!

Firefox or Opera are much superior...

As far as my Vista experience, I have not had 1 single problem since I upgraded the graphics.

I have a 4.7 performance rating and everything runs smooth as silk.

The main problem is that people are going to be running Vista Premium on PC's that are only made for Basic.

Memory is used properly in Vista, something that other versions of Windows never did.

I think people need to chill out, give it a few months...we all thought XP was going to be another ME when it first came out...

For what it's worth...I'm running:

AMD Athlon 64 3800+ 2.0ghz Dual core...
3 gig PC3200 ram
256mb ATi Radeon x1300 Pro
250gig SATA HD

I'm pulling a 4.7 with those specs...that' pretty damn good if I must say...

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Mike Heenan
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posted 04-03-2007 03:45 PM

Richard how are viewing dvd's on your system? For a few weeks mine ran flawlessly, now I'm seeing small glitches in playback, whether it be some slight stuttering, or clear-like line glitch at the top. Very odd.

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