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Phil Hill
I love my cootie bug

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From: Hollywood, CA USA
Registered: Mar 2000


 - posted 07-30-2007 05:03 PM      Profile for Phil Hill   Email Phil Hill       Edit/Delete Post 
Well after umpteen weeks, SBC/ATT FINALLY got my new underground conduit and telephone cable replaced and hooked up! YEA! HAPPY HAPPY!

The good news is the telco line works great...absolutely NO hum, clicks, or static.

The bad news: My DSL modem doesn't work anymore. Dunno if it was damaged during the repair or what?

So, for awhile I'm still bootlegging on the unsecured Apple wifi

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Phil Hill
I love my cootie bug

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 - posted 08-12-2007 02:36 PM      Profile for Phil Hill   Email Phil Hill       Edit/Delete Post 
Final update of my sob (S.O.B.?) story.

After 10 years of mediocre service from SBC (now AT&T) and 12 weeks of NO landline or DSL due to a problem at their end, they FINALLY got my new underground conduit and cable phone line installed. Then, I dropped them like a hot potato and changed my IP to Earthlink.

Download speed consistently over 5 megabits compared to SBC's 1.2. PLUS! it's $10 a month cheaper! YEA!

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Brad Miller
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 - posted 08-12-2007 03:19 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
And now everyone who wants to harass you now has to deal with another ISP based email address. You should've used your www.philsexxxden.com domain and made an email address off of that or something.

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Paul Mayer
Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under!

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 - posted 08-12-2007 03:22 PM      Profile for Paul Mayer   Author's Homepage   Email Paul Mayer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Glad to hear it. As one coot to another, welcome back to The Wired*, Coot-sama.

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Phil Hill
I love my cootie bug

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Brad, I thought about that, but if I did that, my friends at my church, The Los Angeles Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence, would disown, cast out, and excommunicate me. THEN where in the hell would I get my spiritual footing and blessings?

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Brad Miller
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From internet porn, just like you do now. [Moon]

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Joel N. Weber II
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 - posted 08-18-2007 10:08 PM      Profile for Joel N. Weber II   Email Joel N. Weber II   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Rick Raskin
I'm curious what type of queueing that might that be if you are running native IP?

The answer I have heard is they over-engineer their core networks so that necessary bandwidth will be available.

If you're running a half dozen or fewer phone calls over a T1, the T1 has a ridiculous excess of bandwidth to carry those phone calls, as long as people surfing the web don't happen to have their packets delaying the phone traffic too much. (The original use of a T1 was to carry 24 simultaneous 56 kilobit per second phone calls using time domain multiplexing, after all.)

So ideally you want to convince the routers on both ends of the T1 circuit that they should separate the voice traffic from the other traffic, and if there's a voice packet waiting, to always send that before any random data traffic. (A packet-switched network such as an IP network typically will send one packet at a time; once you start sending a packet across the link, that packet monopolizes the link until you finish sending the entire packet. So it's just a matter of making better choices when you finish sending a packet and are trying to decide which packet to send next.)

Doing this right requires configuring this on your router, and persuading your ISP to do likewise. I suspect many business grade ISPs aren't prepared to do this.

There are a number of ways you might describe to the routers which traffic is high priority. Depending on the software on the router, you may be able to look at IP address, TCP/UDP port number, and the Type of Service byte (where you should actually only be using the 6 bit DSCP field), etc.

Thus far, I've only configured this on Cisco IOS routers. Cisco offers a ton of different queueing strategies (most of which don't solve the VOIP problems); I ended up using Low Latency Queueing, which gives you one high priority queue, and then randomly divides the rest of the traffic among many low priority queues so that if there are multiple low priority TCP streams, those low priority streams are likely to each get similar amounts of bandwidth. Cisco also has a strict priority queueing option that lets you divide the traffic into four levels of priority.

I've used a config that looks something like this:

quote:
class-map voip
match access-group 150

policy-map outbound-policy
class voip
priority 800
class class-default
fair-queue 64
queue-limit 20

interface serial6/0
service-policy output outbound-policy

You need to substitute the right interface name, and you need to define an access-list 150 that matches the traffic that cuts in line. And there was some slight change in syntax that was needed on the ISP end to be compatible with the software they happened to be running.

Juniper's ScreenOS offers 8 levels of strict priority queueing as its only queueing strategy (well, or you can put it into an extremely simple, dumb FIFO mode with no prioritization). However, I haven't yet managed to get that working for VPN tunnels. If you have a ScreenOS router sitting behind a Cisco IOS router, you can configure route based tunnels on the ScreenOS router, and the IP Type of Service field in the IP header leaks out to the unencrypted part of the encrypted packet where the IOS router will happily use it to prioritize the data appropriately, so that the voice traffic in the tunnel goes out ahead of the data traffic in the same tunnel. If you have a T1 card in your ScreenOS router, it appears to me that you have to define one tunnel for the high priority traffic, and another for the low priority traffic, and put those tunnels on different globally routed IP addresses so that you can tell the router to traffic shape on those addresses, and then use policy based routing to insert the traffic into the correct tunnel. However, I haven't tried that out yet.

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