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Phil Hill
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 - posted 06-25-2007 04:21 PM      Profile for Phil Hill   Email Phil Hill       Edit/Delete Post 
I guess I should watch this film again. The 1st time I saw it, I thought it as depressing as "Brazil".

I didn't like either film.

In general, I don't like bleak and depressing films.

But since it's so highly rated and recommended, I will watch it again... with an open mind.

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Cameron Glendinning
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 - posted 06-25-2007 06:25 PM      Profile for Cameron Glendinning   Email Cameron Glendinning   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: John Wilson
My friends and I went to the Village Double Bay Cinema to see the Director's Cut (Cameron, were you there too?) on its first Friday night and the place was packed.
No I wasn't John, I was working in London at the time, I tried to watch it at both the MGM Trocodero and Clappem Picture House, but walked out both times with my money back, due to the cinemas choice of sound level, Blade Runner is no fun if the person behind you's breathing is louder than the explosions!!!!!

My first viewing of Blade Runner was I suspect, my first 70mm experience, at Village Cinema City no 1 (in its pre THX days). I loved it.

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Jim Bedford
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 - posted 06-25-2007 08:29 PM      Profile for Jim Bedford   Author's Homepage   Email Jim Bedford   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
They say a picture is worth a thousand words but in my mind these 419 words are worth thousands of pictures...

Deckard's voice overs from BLADERUNNER (sorry, can't remember where this came from but it was probably a Google search using one or more of the lines):

quote:
They don't advertise for killers in the newspaper. That was my profession. Ex-cop, ex-bladerunner, ex-killer.

Sushi, that's what my ex-wife called me. Cold fish.

The charmer's name was Gaff. I'd seen him around. Bryant must have upped him to the Blade Runner unit. That jibberish he talked was city-speak, guttertalk, a mishmash of Japanese, Spanish, German, what have you. I didn't really need a translator. I knew the lingo, every good cop did. But I wasn't going to make it easier for him.

Skin jobs, that's what Bryant called replicants. In history books he was the kind of cop that used to call black men niggers.

I'd quit because I'd had a belly full of killing. But then I'd rather be a killer than a victim. And that's exactly what Bryant's threat about little people meant. So I hooked in once more, thinking that if I couldn't take it, I'd split later. I didn't have to worry about Gaff. He was brown-nosing for a promotion, so he didn't want me back anyway.

I didn't know whether Leon gave Holden a legit address. But it was the only lead I had, so I checked it out. Whatever was in the bathtub was not human. Replicants don't have scales. And family photos? Replicants didn't have families either.

Tyrell really did a job on Rachel. Right down to a snapshot of a mother she never had, a daughter she never was. Replicants weren't supposed to have feelings. Neither were blade runners. What the hell was happening to me? Leon's pictures had to as phony as Rachel's. I didn't know why a replicant would collect photos. Maybe they were like Rachel. They needed memories.

The report would be routine retirement of a replicant which didn't make me feel any better about shooting a woman in the back. There it was again. Feeling, in myself. For her, for Rachel.

I don't know why he saved my life. Maybe in those last moments he loved life more than he ever had before. Not just his life, anybody's life, my life. All he'd wanted were the same answers the rest of us want. Where did I come from? Where am I going? How long have I got? All I could do was sit there and watch him die.

Gaff had been there, and let her live. Four years, he figured. He was wrong. Tyrell had told me Rachel was special: no termination date. I didn't know how long we had together, who does?


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Dave Williams
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 - posted 06-26-2007 01:28 AM      Profile for Dave Williams   Author's Homepage   Email Dave Williams   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I saw Blade Runner at the Trolley Corners theater in Salt Lake City, Utah, on their super screen. Unfortunately the theater has been replaced by a 24 hour fitness, and they don't even have a pool? Where is the justice?

I have always loved the movie, both the narrated and the suddednly silent versions. I am not a big fan of narration, but I do admit that I hear the narrations as well when I watch the directors cut.

As for this being as bad as Brazil, that film had its problems too, with multiple edits just killing that film. There is a great cut of the film out there that really shows how badly a film can be when the studio gets their ugly little fingers on it.

ciao

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Joe Redifer
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I've only seen Blade Runner once. It was on LaserDisc on some sort of Criterion dealy. I barely remember anything about the movie, so it must not be something that could be described as "memorable". I do remember there was a robot chick who smoked, and I found that to be so incredibly stupid that I could barely comprehend it. But that was made back in the day when smoking was cool, I guess.

Nowadays I hear about many different versions of Blade Runner and how it none of them are the "true" versions or some such nonsense like that. I don't know which version to watch. So I figure "why bother?" Many movies have "unrated" cuts. Blade Runner only has "overrated" versions.

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Paul Gordon
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 - posted 06-26-2007 07:20 AM      Profile for Paul Gordon   Author's Homepage   Email Paul Gordon   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
When are they going to rerelease Bladerunner? I heard rumors it was going to be this year... for a movie thats 25 years old it still stands up.. 1982 sure was a good year for Scifi, Bladerunner, Tron, and E.T. We used to play the directors cut all the time at the theatre I work at.. but not in the last 5 years..we need some new prints!

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Geoff Jones
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I'm also hoping for a Theatrical release of the "Final Cut." I read somewhere that will make announcements at ComiCon, late July.

Jones
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Michael Coate
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quote: Mike Heenan
I'd like to hear more about the 70mm workprint screening, is that the 1990 screening you are talking about Coate?
Yes.

Here is a link to From Script To DVD's Fairfax Theatre photo gallery page that includes a scan of the ticket for the '90 screening as well as a brief write-up of the event.

For more on the test print, I'd recommend taking of look at Paul M. Sammon's book, "Future Noir: The Making Of Blade Runner" (Harper, 1996), where several pages are devoted to the test screenings and the discovery of that print years later and how it evolved into the "Director's Cut" re-release.

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Monte L Fullmer
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quote: Dave Williams
I saw Blade Runner at the Trolley Corners theater in Salt Lake City, Utah
(prob in the same large house where I saw "Dark Crystal" later that year (1982) around the Christmas holiday when it opened...the large upstairs house..and of course, they had to use opaque tape...grrr...and also heard of 70mm releases of this movie as well..)

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Michael Coate
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quote: Brad Miller
A little bit of info on that test screening most people don't know about...

Northpark was still a changeover house at that point. There were two last reels to Blade Runner with the print, each having a different ending. Ridley Scott sat on the projectionist balcony to view audience reaction and about 5 minutes before the final changeover was to happen, made the decision on which ending to use.

Is it possible that the reason most people don't know about this is because your story may be pure bunk?

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Steve Guttag
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Hmmmm.....I remember running it alot when it came out....I STILL remember some of the changeover cues! "Goooood evening JF" was one of them.

I also ran the director's cut at the Uptown (also changeovers).

I really enjoyed the film on its initial release. I also like the director's cut but didn't mind the voice overs and that is VERY rare for me. The voice overs in say Field of Dreams really bothered me.

Steve

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Bobby Henderson
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I don't mind the narration in Bladerunner. I thought that did more to support the kind of mix of film-noir and science fiction that was intended.

The one thing that does grate on me about Bladerunner is the very beginning. I'm sorry, but I think the opening titles are ridiculous. First, the music and audio effects mix suggest that we need to revere these titles with great importance as they appear on the screen. Meanwhile, I'm scratching my head, wondering, "why don't they SHOW US the replicants breaking out of that off world colony? Why do I have to read about it instead?"
[Roll Eyes]

Bladerunner is a great looking movie. But I do not consider it to be a great movie on the whole at all. Drama-wise, I'd give it 2.5 stars out of four.

I think this movie has been able to sustain interest over the past 25 years because of its visual design, both in production design and the graphical design of its visual effects. Bladerunner has influenced the look of many science fiction movies that followed it -including the last three Star Wars prequels.

The visuals and atmosphere in Bladerunner have been very popular in the visual arts communities, whether the artist works on comic books or builds fine art shows.

Still, production design alone is not enough to make a movie truly great. While Bladerunner is often beautiful to watch, I think it is pretty flawed at its dramatic core. A lot of movies from Ridley Scott are like that.

With that said, I think another movie that came out the same year deserves even more notice. It had a better story and even more amazing, unique visuals. That movie was Tron.

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Dave Williams
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quote: Joe Redifer
Nowadays I hear about many different versions of Blade Runner and how it none of them are the "true" versions or some such nonsense like that. I don't know which version to watch. So I figure "why bother?" Many movies have "unrated" cuts. Blade Runner only has "overrated" versions.
We all know what happens after multiple changes to a film after release to achieve thier "true" version... we end up with Star Wars the special special recut resound rescrewed edition with the original no longer existing because "the original isn't what I intended" crap.

I wish I could get away with that same crap. I go to court and tell the judge "running over that old lady is NOT what I intended, what I ACTUALLY intended was to pick her up and give her some cookies before taking her grocieries home for her" and then I get away with it because my original action was not my original intention.

Its all BULL!!! If you can't get it right the first time, then at least try and get it right the next four or five times, please!!!

Ciao

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Thomas Hauerslev
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 - posted 07-02-2007 05:37 AM      Profile for Thomas Hauerslev   Author's Homepage   Email Thomas Hauerslev   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
See: Wikipedia

btw, only 12 years to 2019

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John Wilson
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The Blade Runner - Ultimate Collector's Edition (5 Disc Briefcase) comes out here December 5th for only $189.83.

No sign of a theatrical release at present.

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