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David Stambaugh
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posted 01-26-2008 04:48 PM

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So Ledger's masseuse finds him sprawled on the bed, cold to the touch and not reactive, and the first person she calls is Mary Kate Olsen of The Olsen Twins (twice) who sends her private security team to check on him, and only after that does the masseuse finally think hey, maybe I should call 911.

I had no idea. Also I later heard MKO was called four times.

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Mike Heenan
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posted 01-26-2008 05:29 PM

And, the massuese is not licensed in NY, and is going to be (or has been) arrested. I haven't read this anywhere but it would be interesting to know if he could have been saved had she called 911 first?

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Joe Redifer
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posted 01-26-2008 05:32 PM

A masseuse needs to be licensed? What the hell for?

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Mike Heenan
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posted 01-26-2008 05:57 PM

Happy endings? Who knows... actually, they say that licensed masseuses are certified in CPR, so its possible maybe she could have done something to save him.

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Chris Slycord
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posted 01-26-2008 08:47 PM

quote: Joe Redifer
A masseuse needs to be licensed? What the hell for?

Because a massage therapist who doesn't know what they're doing could severely hurt you.

You think "oh but they're just giving me a massage" but then think about all the nerves that are all over your body (especially the back which is where they usually focus on) or dealing with your spine in particular.

And since I had looked into being a massage therapist a while back. I remember that New York requires 1000 hours of training at a minimum (most states that license them require 500 or 750 hours). Though, in Canada they require 3000 hours of training (that's practically a bachelor's degree by that point).

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Allison Parsons
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posted 01-27-2008 01:38 AM

quote: Chris Slycord
Because a massage therapist who doesn't know what they're doing could severely hurt you.

Guess he didn't get the 'happy ending'. [Roll Eyes]

It's offical, i'm going straight to hell.

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John Wilson
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posted 01-27-2008 08:25 AM

Can I just point out here that I really cannot believe all the press this story got (and continues to get) in Australia.

Unbelievable. I'm sorry for his passing but really... [Roll Eyes]

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Leo Enticknap
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posted 01-27-2008 09:21 AM

quote: Chris Slycord
And since I had looked into being a massage therapist a while back. I remember that New York requires 1000 hours of training at a minimum (most states that license them require 500 or 750 hours). Though, in Canada they require 3000 hours of training (that's practically a bachelor's degree by that point).

I wonder who they practise on during their training? There was a hairdressers' training college in a town where I used to live, which offered free cuts to anyone who was willing to risk coming out looking like a hedgehog if they didn't get one of the brighter students. Presumably the places which train massage therapists offer a similar deal to anyone who is prepared to take a flyer on emerging slightly the worse for wear; but I'm not sure I'd be brave enough to risk it!

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Chris Slycord
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posted 01-27-2008 10:21 AM

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I wonder who they practise on during their training? There was a hairdressers' training college in a town where I used to live, which offered free cuts to anyone who was willing to risk coming out looking like a hedgehog if they didn't get one of the brighter students. Presumably the places which train massage therapists offer a similar deal to anyone who is prepared to take a flyer on emerging slightly the worse for wear; but I'm not sure I'd be brave enough to risk it!

They practice on other students in the classroom. Later, they give massages to the general public in a "student clinic" which is also under the supervision of an instructor.

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Stephen Furley
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posted 01-27-2008 11:36 AM

quote: Leo Enticknap
I wonder who they practise on during their training? There was a hairdressers' training college in a town where I used to live, which offered free cuts to anyone who was willing to risk coming out looking like a hedgehog if they didn't get one of the brighter students.

Hairdressing and 'Beauty therapy' are a major thing at the college where I work. We have a whole suite of salons which used to be known as 'Peppermint Studios', but were renamed 'Aura' when they were totally refurbished a couple of years ago. We get e-mails sent to all staff from time to time offering cheap treatments to any staff who are prepared to be victims, err clients. I don't know if they do gents hairdressing, or if it's only ladies. When I went to install a new 'phone on their reception desk the other day I did ask if they could glue a bit back on the front for me, but they declined.

There are a lot of girls who walk around the building dressed mainly in white, towing sort of airline cabin baggage on wheels type things behind them; they are the hairdressing and beauty therapy students. The beauty therapy bit is frightening; I don't know exactly what they do in there, but on the rare occasions that I've ever had to visit the place to look at non-working I.T. equipment it looks distinctly hospital-like. There's also a door marked 'Body Room', I have visions of that being where they dump the mortal remains of some of their less successful treatment attempts!

Why does anybody want beauty therapy anyway; what's wrong with being ugly?

I got into a lift recently, and found myself in the company of one of their lecturers, who had one of those small folding trolley things, full of heads, plastic dummy ones I assume, but it looked really funny. Sadly, I didn't have a camera with me; it would have been good for a caption competition.

We also do catering type courses, and have a training restaurant with kitchens and also a bar, I think there's also a small bar in the restaurant itself.

Joking aside, both catering and hairdressing students have won various external awards, so they can't be that bad.

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