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Frank Angel
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In 2012 spontanious expansion of the earth's magma causes the polar magnatism to invert. + become - and - becomes + All electronics, computer chips, ICs, LEDs, LCDs, DLPs as well as everything digital either just stops functioning or simply blows up. We are tossed back a century or so before the dawn of the industial revolution.

People will ask, "what is digital?"

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Mike Blakesley
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That'll just spawn a huge industry of geeks who will go around in white coats reversing polarity on every pair of wires in the world, at $100 a pair.

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Steve Guttag
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Either that or Lucas electric actually starts to work!

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Scott Norwood
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So, what happens to on-screen advertising in 2018?

I'd guess that it either goes away completely (as too few people will be going to movies to make it worthwhile) or it becomes totally omnipresent, to the point of interrupting the feature.

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Bobby Henderson
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I think we'll see a good deal of on-screen advertising migrate out of the auditorium and into the lobby where it might actually be more effective. Once I take my seat in the theater, I'm not going to go back to the lobby even if the ad for buying soda and popcorn is way freaking cool.

Large LCD-TVs and plasma screens have fallen a great deal in price and are good advertising tools, especially when you can have numerous displays positioned around the lobby. A really big movie theater could install a LED-based jumbo-tron in the lobby to hammer customers with ads and movie trailers.

In some respects I see the potential for "sports bar & grille" restaurants to transform into entertainment venues that even dip into the business of showing some feature films. The traditional movie theater is not set up for showing live sports events as alternative content. Companies like Buffalo Wild Wings have large projection screens for showing football games or a pay per view UFC fighting event -but their projection quality is not great. They have lots of smaller LCD and plasma screen televisions and a handful of big projection screens. Put a cinema-quality projector in there, adjust the seating layout and install a better quality audio system and it will unlock a lot of potential. You could be showing a movie or some pay per view event and then be showing ads on some of the smaller screens. Not quite the movie going environment I would prefer. But I probably wouldn't care quite so much over being too busy stuffing my face with food and sucking down beers.

I think the high end luxury theater model (i.e. Warren Theaters or Arclight in L.A.) and the cinema grille concept are going to be long term winners. A sports bar-cinema could be a worthy spin-off of that theme.

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Mike Blakesley
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I guess I can see the appeal of the cinema grill concept to people but it doesn't appeal to me. When I watch a movie I don't want to have to eat supper -- to me that's something to do before or after the movie. I guess for me the bottom line is, eating is not my favorite pastime like it is for many people.

Anyway - Now that we've had a couple of days to discuss, here are the 10 predictions from Boxoffice. (These are just the headlines - there is additional explanatory text in the mag.)

The article is by Nick Dager, who edits digitalcinemareport.com.

1. Most major Hollywood movies will be released in 3-D

2. 3-D home theatre will increase demand for bigger screens at the cineplex

3. Screens will get a lot bigger

4. Theatres will increasingly become destinations (with restaurants and such)

5. There will be more theatres and more screens (some of which will show very little first-run content)

6. Alternative content will be the major revenue source for most exhibitors

7. Hollywood will try to play a key role in alternative content

8. There will be fewer Hollywood major studios

9. Some theatres will still be showing 35mm prints

10. Day and date release will be the norm. Exhibitors will want it. (He predicts theatres will sell DVDs in the lobby and will be the exclusive place to buy them during the "window." He also says this is the prediction he's least confident in.)

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Bobby Henderson
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I find some of those predictions surprising -especially because some don't make much sense. That's just my opinion of course.

1. Even if 3D does get significantly more popular, I don't agree most major productions will use it. CG animated movies are going to adopt 3D across the board. Certain genre pictures, like horror movies, can be effective in 3D. I don't see serious drama or light comedy embracing it.

2. Full color 3D in home theater won't cause demand for bigger screens. It will increase demand for better quality movie theaters.

Predictions 3, 4 and 5 contradict each other and don't seem economically feasible. A true "destination theater," complete with restaurants and other attractions, costs a fortune to build and demands heavy customer traffic for survival. Currently there are too many first run theater screens. I don't think the market can support a lot more. Theater companies will have to consolidate resources into fewer theater sites boasting a higher quality movie-going experience.

I don't agree with prediction #6. Overall I'm not impressed with how theaters have handled alternative content so far. Much of it has limited customer appeal. Things like live sporting events are going to attract more people to restaurants and sports bars that serve drinks and allow for rowdy, cheering crowds.

Not sure about prediction #7. Movie studios could use their marketing muscle to promote certain kinds of alternative content -like a DLP showing of a sold out, major Broadway stage play. But they're not going to have a stake in a lot of other kinds of content like live concerts, pay per view fights, etc.

I agree with prediction #8.

Regarding #9, I think film will be gone from first run theaters by 2018. The only way I see it hanging around is via IMAX or 70mm -if the film is made anymore at that time.

If prediction #10 happens, it would only work if DVDs and BDs are sold exclusively in the theater lobby and for a high, premium price. If day and date happened with the movies being available at any retail store or for rent at video stores it would be a fatal poison pill for the movie theater industry.

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Rick Raskin
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quote: Frank Angel
In 2012 spontanious expansion of the earth's magma ...
December 21, 2012 to be exact. According to the Mayan calendar, the end of the world.

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Caleb Johnstone-Cowan
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My predictions:

The Box Office will cease to exist. Customers will have to get tickets at the concession stand. You may find some very large cinemas or carved-up cinemas (do you have those in North America?) keep a till or two for busy times but nowhere else.

Alcohol will become more important to the cinema experience. Most cinemas will be fully licensed in the screens and/or have a bar.

Digital projection will be less forgiving to films that open poorly as the ability to ditch them for another print of a better performing or older film will be easier. Can also see the number of titles shown at a cinema in a given week going up as it will be easy to programme, store and play films from a central server. The diversity will mainly be during the early and late shows though.

The major action picture of each year will get filmed/videoed in the IMAX format/brand. A lot of this will depend on if Transformers 2 and the 2010 big summer film do well on their screens.

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Scott Norwood
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I have not received this issue yet and can't comment on the article (and I will spare everyone my opinion of Nick Dager's previous articles (hint: low) and Boxoffice in general (hint: also low)), but here are my comments, should anyone care:

quote: Mike Blakesley

1. Most major Hollywood movies will be released in 3-D

Unlikely. We have had the ability to produce 3D films for 60+ years and yet only a handful have been made in the format. Why would this change now? Most films just wouldn't benefit from 3D. Add to that the fact that many people have lousy 3D vision and that many more find the glasses annoying. Large-format films and CGI/Pixar-type films seem to benefit most from 3D.

quote: Mike Blakesley

2. 3-D home theatre will increase demand for bigger screens at the cineplex

HD was available in 1998 (as a viable commercial product) and is just now becoming affordable to the average consumer. A viable, consumer-friendly 3D-at-home product does not currently exist and likely won't for several years. I don't see how this would become anything more than a high-end niche product by 2018.

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3. Screens will get a lot bigger

Doesn't this logically follow #2 above, if he's correct? Personally, I can see that the average screen size will increase when the dumpy mini-mall theatres are killed off, but I can't imagine that average screen size in new construction will change. If anything, new screens will be slightly smaller, as theatres with lower seating capacity are built.

quote: Mike Blakesley

4. Theatres will increasingly become destinations (with restaurants and such)

I can believe this. Customers will demand something more than seats and a screen.

quote: Mike Blakesley

5. There will be more theatres and more screens (some of which will show very little first-run content)

I disagree completely. Ticket sales are either flat or slightly rising, but entertainment options continue to proliferate and there is no sign that the quality of major releases will improve substantially in the next decade. Many smaller communities will lose their theatres as people choose other forms of entertainment; this may not be a bad thing if the theatres that fail are 1970s shoebox-style multiplexes.

Further, I would think that the proportion of screens showing first-run features will increase, as video and cable continue to kill what is left of the discount/dollar-house market.

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6. Alternative content will be the major revenue source for most exhibitors

I don't have numbers, but my understanding is that alternative content has (to date) pretty much been a loser, due to the cost of advertising one-night-only events, as well as the general lack of interest on the part of the general public. I don't see this changing in a mainstream way, although I don't doubt that someone, somewhere will find success with it in a niche market.

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7. Hollywood will try to play a key role in alternative content

I don't have an opinion on this. I guess it depends upon whether "Hollywood" (whoever that is) thinks that there is money to be made in alternative content.

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8. There will be fewer Hollywood major studios

No opinion.

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9. Some theatres will still be showing 35mm prints

No question in my mind. I'm quite sure that 35mm film will exist substantially forever in the art-house and repertory markets, at least.

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10. Day and date release will be the norm. Exhibitors will want it.

No opinion.

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Frank Angel
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quote: Rick Raskin
December 21, 2012 to be exact. According to the Mayan calendar, the end of the world.
According to my Financial Advisor, the day I move into the poor house.

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Sam Graham
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Due to the shortened attention span of youth at the time, movies will rarely be longer than 40 minutes in length.

Movie tickets ($50) will have to produce a profit after popcorn and soda are declared illegal for being unhealthy. Dinner and a movie at a movie grill will cost upwards of $150 per person.

Emeril will patent Smell-O-Vision and unintentionally revolutionize the industry, bringing a whole new level of sickness to horror movies.

Smell-O-Vision will be the only new technical advance in theatres, who will still be catching up on the digital cinema conversion.

Miley Cyrus will become one of the most successful comedic actresses in the history of cinema.

The Princess 2 will be split into three screens and be rechristened the “Princessarama”.

The number one blockbuster of the year will be “Waffle House: The Movie”…which, oddly enough, will be a gay musical.

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It has been 1867 days since the last post.


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Manny Knowles
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We're half-way there.
5 years + approx 1.5 months

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Justin Hamaker
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Looking at the points from the article.

1. Most major Hollywood movies will be released in 3-D
I think most of us now see this is not going to happen. While 3D can still be a great format for the right movie (Gravity, Life of Pi, Avatar), we are seeing a leveling off of the number of 3D releases. Plus customers are starting to reject 3D in many instances.

2. 3-D home theatre will increase demand for bigger screens at the cineplex
After some initial interest, it seems that 3D television has been relegated to the ranks of a novelty. If I was buying a new TV today, 3D would not even make the list of features I'm interested in. And I certainly don't see 3D as driving the design of auditoriums.

3. Screens will get a lot bigger
Large screen formats seem to be growing in popularity, but I don't think we're seeing any particular push to increase screen size. If anything, I think new theatres would be more focused on the quantity of auditoriums, and only a couple of those would have large screens with the latest sound formats.

4. Theatres will increasingly become destinations (with restaurants and such)
In large markets, I think it's logical to have a movie theatre anchor a shopping center or entertainment destination. But only in markets with enough population to make this viable. In any town, real estate near a movie theatre will be desirable for restaurants. But that's simply a matter picking a prime location.

5. There will be more theatres and more screens (some of which will show very little first-run content)
There has been little growth in the number of screens since the article was published (less than 1000 additional according to NATO data). Other than replacing outdated theatres with new locations, and building in locations with growing population, I don't see where there is a major demand for new theatre construction.

6. Alternative content will be the major revenue source for most exhibitors
We have yet to see alternative content become a major revenue source for theatres, and it's difficult to see that changing. If the industry can work out licensing agreements with the major professional sports leagues, we might see growth for major events. But I don't see those as a major regular revenue source.

7. Hollywood will try to play a key role in alternative content
no comment on this one.

8. There will be fewer Hollywood major studios
I think it was obvious that Lionsgate was starting to become a major studio in 2008. If you include LG, that makes 7 major studios in 2013. At this point there has been nothing to indicate this will change any time soon. Although some minor studios have had successful releases, we keep seeing those bought up and folded into one of the majors, or merging to create stronger specialty studios.

9. Some theatres will still be showing 35mm prints
Given that we are on the verge of seeing the studios stop making 35mm prints for new releases, this is obviously a bad prediction. By 2018, 35mm film will be completely gone from first run distribution. It will only be shown in specialty repository theatres, and even that seems like it will be extremely rare.

10. Day and date release will be the norm. Exhibitors will want it. (He predicts theatres will sell DVDs in the lobby and will be the exclusive place to buy them during the "window." He also says this is the prediction he's least confident in.)

Until one of the studios is willing to take a gamble on doing a day and date release for a major title, it's unlikely this is going to happen. So far we have not seen any day and date DVD releases (to the best of my knowledge), and day and date VOD has been limited to small marginal films. Furthermore, the DVD window seems to have more or less stabilized at about 3 months for most releases.

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